From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: visual-line-mode and line wrapping Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 15:31:18 -0400 Message-ID: <87typxp055.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1274729587 16819 80.91.229.12 (24 May 2010 19:33:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 19:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Leo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 24 21:33:05 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGdOH-0003XJ-6j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 May 2010 21:33:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58844 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OGdNq-00059z-HL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 May 2010 15:32:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48427 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OGdN3-0004jN-H1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 May 2010 15:31:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGdMu-0001qY-0t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 May 2010 15:31:25 -0400 Original-Received: from pantheon-po27.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.122]:45720) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGdMt-0001qL-Td for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 May 2010 15:31:19 -0400 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014059.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.59]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po27.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o4OJVHot008285 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 24 May 2010 15:31:18 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1C55016D427; Mon, 24 May 2010 15:31:18 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Leo's message of "Mon, 24 May 2010 20:18:46 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125206 Archived-At: Leo writes: > Using fringes or margins (now that I have tried it and I can imagine how > Lennart implement his mode) are all workarounds and they are not much > different than opening up a frame with the desired width but then it is > a waste of screen estate and it has impact on productivity. Implementing a wrap margin creates exactly the same waste of screen estate. Functionally, the two are equivalent.