From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: e and pi Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:00:45 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87tylodfc2.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <8739t9xpt2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284707066 6096 80.91.229.12 (17 Sep 2010 07:04:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:04:26 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 17 09:04:21 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwUzb-0007v0-6m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:04:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54371 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OwUza-0005Jw-6M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 03:04:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34895 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OwUwT-00042o-8e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 03:01:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwUwR-0001K5-KA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 03:01:04 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:51847) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwUwR-0001Jh-EG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 03:01:03 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwUwH-0006O8-Ls for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:00:53 +0200 Original-Received: from p508edd3f.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.142.221.63]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:00:53 +0200 Original-Received: from dak by p508edd3f.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:00:53 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p508edd3f.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:bG2p8qlTgeB8QO2L/2LeH/e39Qk= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130285 Archived-At: Chong Yidong writes: > Stefan Monnier writes: > >> So I intend to do the following: >> - in Emacs-23.3, define `e', `float-e', `pi', and `float-pi' and declare >> `e' and `pi' obsolete, but without a make-obsolete-variable >> (i.e. only in NEWS and in docstrings). >> - in Emacs-24 keep float-e and float-pi but get rid of `e' and `pi'. >> >> Can anyone think of a better solution? > > I don't like the idea of `float-e' and `float-pi'. > > What is the problem with dynamically scoping `e' and `pi'? If it's only > the compiler warning, we can give the compiler a whitelist of variables > not to complain about. What is the problem with doing a defconst on them and letting defconst _not_ work like defvar with regard to introducing dynamic scoping? -- David Kastrup