elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Jambunathan K]

Chong

I was to happy to note orgmode showing up in
http://elpa.gnu.org/packages.

When I tried installing it using package manager, I get a package
download error. The reason is that archive-contents advertizes a package
dated Nov 1, while the (only) tar available on the server is dated Nov
7, 2010.

Could you please fix this discrepancy?

,----
| org 20101101 available Outline-based notes management and organizer
|
| Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Error during download request: Not Found")
|   signal(error ("Error during download request: Not Found"))
|   error("Error during download request:%s" " Not Found")
|   package-handle-response()
|   package-download-tar(org "20101101")
|   package-download-transaction((org))
|   package-install(org)
|   package-menu-execute()
|   call-interactively(package-menu-execute nil nil)
`----

Jambunathan K.

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Chong Yidong]

Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:

> I was to happy to note orgmode showing up in
> http://elpa.gnu.org/packages.
>
> When I tried installing it using package manager, I get a package
> download error. The reason is that archive-contents advertizes a package
> dated Nov 1, while the (only) tar available on the server is dated Nov
> 7, 2010.

Should be fixed now.

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Jambunathan K]

Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> writes:

> Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I was to happy to note orgmode showing up in
>> http://elpa.gnu.org/packages.
>>
>> When I tried installing it using package manager, I get a package
>> download error. The reason is that archive-contents advertizes a package
>> dated Nov 1, while the (only) tar available on the server is dated Nov
>> 7, 2010.
>
> Should be fixed now.

I verified that things *were* OK.  But, as I write now, the discrepancy
has re-surfaced.

Jambunathan K.

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Chong Yidong]

Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:

> I verified that things *were* OK.  But, as I write now, the discrepancy
> has re-surfaced.

What time is the org daily package generated?  It's possible the cron
job on elpa.gnu.org is running when the daily is not yet available, and
getting confused.

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Bastien]

Hi Chong,

Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> writes:

> Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I verified that things *were* OK.  But, as I write now, the discrepancy
>> has re-surfaced.
>
> What time is the org daily package generated?  

It's generated at 00:00 in San Francisco (Pacific Standard Time).

Hope that helps,

-- 
 Bastien

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 21:19:53 +0100 Bastien <bastien.guerry@wikimedia.fr> wrote: 

B> Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> writes:

>> Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> I verified that things *were* OK.  But, as I write now, the discrepancy
>>> has re-surfaced.
>> 
>> What time is the org daily package generated?  

B> It's generated at 00:00 in San Francisco (Pacific Standard Time).

I fixed the script to get the latest org-*.tar:

pkgname=`/usr/bin/curl http://orgmode.org/pkg/daily/|/usr/bin/perl -ne 'push @f, $1 if m/(org-\d{8}\.tar)/; END { @f = sort @f; print "$f[-1]\n"}'`

If this is not a good way to get the latest, let me know.  Seems to work
reliably for me.

Ted

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Bastien]

Hi Ted,

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> I fixed the script to get the latest org-*.tar:
>
> pkgname=`/usr/bin/curl http://orgmode.org/pkg/daily/|/usr/bin/perl -ne 'push @f, $1 if m/(org-\d{8}\.tar)/; END { @f = sort @f; print "$f[-1]\n"}'`
>
> If this is not a good way to get the latest, let me know.  Seems to work
> reliably for me.

I tried package-list-packages from GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1
(i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.22.0) of 2010-11-02

I get the Org 7.1 built-in version and Org 20101101.  

The latest Org version on http://orgmode.org/pkg/daily/ 
is org-2010110.tar -- isn't that the one I should see
when updating the packages list with `g'?

Maybe I miss something.

Thanks!

-- 
 Bastien

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 20:12:50 -0600 Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: 

TZ> I fixed the script to get the latest org-*.tar:

TZ> pkgname=`/usr/bin/curl http://orgmode.org/pkg/daily/|/usr/bin/perl -ne 'push @f, $1 if m/(org-\d{8}\.tar)/; END { @f = sort @f; print "$f[-1]\n"}'`

TZ> If this is not a good way to get the latest, let me know.  Seems to work
TZ> reliably for me.

I fixed a bug in the repo builder script.  It should have the latest
org-mode now.

Ted

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Bastien]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> I fixed a bug in the repo builder script.  It should have the latest
> org-mode now.

I confirm this, thanks a lot!

But now I have two entries, one for 20101101 and one for 20101110.

I guess this is a problem in package.el.  This might confuse users,
especially those who count in binary, since the old Org comes then
*after* the newest one ;)

-- 
 Bastien

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:17:44 +0100 Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote: 

B> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> I fixed a bug in the repo builder script.  It should have the latest
>> org-mode now.

B> I confirm this, thanks a lot!

B> But now I have two entries, one for 20101101 and one for 20101110.

Yeah, I think it should have flushed the older package when elpa.gnu.org
doesn't have it anymore.  Installing that invalid package will fail in
any case, but I think what you describe is a bug.

Ted

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Chong Yidong]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> B> But now I have two entries, one for 20101101 and one for 20101110.
>
> Yeah, I think it should have flushed the older package when elpa.gnu.org
> doesn't have it anymore.  Installing that invalid package will fail in
> any case, but I think what you describe is a bug.

This was a bug in package.el; I've just checked in a fix.

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Jambunathan K]

Still something is amiss wrt org tarball.

archive-contents is holding on to Nov 1 while the org tar has moved on
to Nov 11. What is so special about Nov 1. If I am not mistaken the
state flips flops - right wrong right wrong ...

Jambunathan K.


Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> writes:

> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>
>> B> But now I have two entries, one for 20101101 and one for 20101110.
>>
>> Yeah, I think it should have flushed the older package when elpa.gnu.org
>> doesn't have it anymore.  Installing that invalid package will fail in
>> any case, but I think what you describe is a bug.
>
> This was a bug in package.el; I've just checked in a fix.

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Bastien]

Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> writes:

>> Yeah, I think it should have flushed the older package when elpa.gnu.org
>> doesn't have it anymore.  Installing that invalid package will fail in
>> any case, but I think what you describe is a bug.
>
> This was a bug in package.el; I've just checked in a fix.

Thanks!

-- 
 Bastien

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:25:04 +0530 Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> wrote: 

JK> Still something is amiss wrt org tarball.

JK> archive-contents is holding on to Nov 1 while the org tar has moved on
JK> to Nov 11. What is so special about Nov 1. If I am not mistaken the
JK> state flips flops - right wrong right wrong ...

This was correct yesterday.  Chong Yidong can look at why it failed
today or I'll do so tonight.

Thanks
Ted

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:24:07 -0600 Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: 

TZ> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:25:04 +0530 Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> wrote: 
JK> Still something is amiss wrt org tarball.

JK> archive-contents is holding on to Nov 1 while the org tar has moved on
JK> to Nov 11. What is so special about Nov 1. If I am not mistaken the
JK> state flips flops - right wrong right wrong ...

TZ> This was correct yesterday.  Chong Yidong can look at why it failed
TZ> today or I'll do so tonight.

This is finally fixed.  Sorry for the inconvenience.

Ted

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Bastien]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:24:07 -0600 Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: 
>
> TZ> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:25:04 +0530 Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> wrote: 
> JK> Still something is amiss wrt org tarball.
>
> JK> archive-contents is holding on to Nov 1 while the org tar has moved on
> JK> to Nov 11. What is so special about Nov 1. If I am not mistaken the
> JK> state flips flops - right wrong right wrong ...
>
> TZ> This was correct yesterday.  Chong Yidong can look at why it failed
> TZ> today or I'll do so tonight.
>
> This is finally fixed.  Sorry for the inconvenience.

Thanks for the fix!

-- 
 Bastien

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:48:32 +0100 Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote: 

B> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:24:07 -0600 Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: 
>> 
TZ> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:25:04 +0530 Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> wrote: 
JK> Still something is amiss wrt org tarball.
>> 
JK> archive-contents is holding on to Nov 1 while the org tar has moved on
JK> to Nov 11. What is so special about Nov 1. If I am not mistaken the
JK> state flips flops - right wrong right wrong ...
>> 
TZ> This was correct yesterday.  Chong Yidong can look at why it failed
TZ> today or I'll do so tonight.
>> 
>> This is finally fixed.  Sorry for the inconvenience.

B> Thanks for the fix!

No problem.  It seems to be working properly after a few days; today's
org version is correctly shown as 20101115.

Are there any other packages I should set up for daily fetching?  I'd
like to do BBDB since I use it a lot (I asked before so this is a
reminder to the BBDB developers if they have some interest).  But any
others can be considered for inclusion.

Ted

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Jambunathan K]

Ted

> Are there any other packages I should set up for daily fetching?  I'd
> like to do BBDB since I use it a lot (I asked before so this is a
> reminder to the BBDB developers if they have some interest).  But any
> others can be considered for inclusion.

I would like to see package.el itself (package-x.el, maybe) right there.

Jambunathan K.

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:58:18 +0530 Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> wrote: 

>> Are there any other packages I should set up for daily fetching?  I'd
>> like to do BBDB since I use it a lot (I asked before so this is a
>> reminder to the BBDB developers if they have some interest).  But any
>> others can be considered for inclusion.

JK> I would like to see package.el itself (package-x.el, maybe) right there.

I think package.el is part of Emacs' core and shouldn't be packaged
externally.  There's a nasty chance of breaking the whole environment if
bad (broken or malicious) code makes it to the elpa.gnu.org version of
package.el.

Ted

Re: elpa.gnu.org (Stale archive-contents?)

[Chong Yidong]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:58:18 +0530 Jambunathan K
> <kjambunathan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Are there any other packages I should set up for daily fetching?  I'd
>>> like to do BBDB since I use it a lot (I asked before so this is a
>>> reminder to the BBDB developers if they have some interest).  But any
>>> others can be considered for inclusion.
>
> JK> I would like to see package.el itself (package-x.el, maybe) right there.
>
> I think package.el is part of Emacs' core and shouldn't be packaged
> externally.  There's a nasty chance of breaking the whole environment if
> bad (broken or malicious) code makes it to the elpa.gnu.org version of
> package.el.

Agreed.