From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: DocView now supports OpenDocument & MS Office formats Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 09:35:08 +0100 Message-ID: <87tyhue3wj.fsf@member.fsf.org> References: <87hbduhno4.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1293784522 25433 80.91.229.12 (31 Dec 2010 08:35:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 08:35:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Jason Rumney To: MON KEY Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 31 09:35:17 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PYaSD-0002zx-1w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 09:35:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38190 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PYaSC-0006B3-BQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 03:35:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=38595 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PYaS8-0006Ao-8E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 03:35:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PYaS6-0006ei-Sg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 03:35:12 -0500 Original-Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:43273) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PYaS6-0006ee-LD; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 03:35:10 -0500 Original-Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0266C577; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 03:35:10 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 31 Dec 2010 03:35:10 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=HBSeBUaKmlzbj56QvhkfViqNeCk=; b=tZXdNZG+yWLQe0d1sPV7X/v4y7w/Klw9GDVHnuqbooqKrVaZz2yu08ANCKwYDS3UiVEAK26z8Jkz2vxSEZ+pE7PtYFGYK4g4D/ujilz4n3evVqXT/yCqI6C+e8sEc8VpRKGrVLEvafA0MXb4tWgcgK4bMTQ8wfBTk6NFGGFgd68= X-Sasl-enc: vlPCQYHXWfmM60jgEqW63BYR/9vD9Aj/Wh11yNMRy82X 1293784509 Original-Received: from thinkpad (95-88-32-105-dynip.superkabel.de [95.88.32.105]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E2CC7442E29; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 03:35:08 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (MON KEY's message of "Thu, 30 Dec 2010 21:12:53 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:134070 Archived-At: MON KEY writes: > Whichever. Thanks to Tasillo et al for endeavoring to make ODF format > available to Emacs users. > > I just find it unfortunate that the feature has the > python/pyuno/UNO/OpenOffice/Java dependencies. I've installed OO.org as precompiled binary and unoconv. The UNO and python bindings seem to be included in OO.org out of the box. And python and java are probably installed anyway. (I mean, you even need python to fetch Emacs source code.) > It would be nice to have an ODF conversion interface which isn't so > heavy, potentially insecure, or so fundamentally antithetical to the > KISS of Emacs' plain text. I don't know what you mean by insecure and antithetical. DocView uses unoconv in a way that it simply starts a local, headless OO.org instance that does the conversion and exits. And both tools are free software. And that it can work remotely (as a kind of SaaS) is not a bad thing in itself: As long as the service is provided by free software, I can setup and study the service locally and don't lose my freedoms, right? Bye, Tassilo