From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Unify fn and var help to make learning elisp a little easier Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:20:37 -0100 Message-ID: <87txrd7pi2.fsf@yandex.ru> References: <1354994383.8564.YahooMailClassic@web141106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1356211268 14011 80.91.229.3 (22 Dec 2012 21:21:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kelly Dean , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 22 22:21:23 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TmWVS-0005Fi-BG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 22:21:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43053 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmWVE-00085K-Dg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:21:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58648) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmWV6-000856-Tu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:21:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmWUx-00061U-9R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:20:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-la0-f42.google.com ([209.85.215.42]:50216) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmWUw-00061I-Tc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:20:47 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-la0-f42.google.com with SMTP id s15so7011756lag.1 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:20:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=en18L60UpXmAyIbL26iPzwX1DFyxQLsXsFRZujhHkpc=; b=NDdALVtpfonVNFJ7qncJC/my72DDgxcxFx8b6RKj5COoQSEIJ3ABajxmb4+DVFXaZH MN4y7sxwmv2Wqs/Z3EvrDNbXOLtYMQKoKD1IH2B0MZyKIoY62TAz6dg1Sn+5NAyZ3TpY rSRHl27RkVHFwUriZS4l+yhR0g8NPuHhCgyoMNqljLj8JK+fFceNCAso51qgYYeCArTu +n1RNwrZVR5smtqnAiJVJq+GpYW3DBcWg3Ty2lDa6bwWgryw4w/JFAog7Hs/NCJ1pI/W 5sSmu+RVEIWqyjeVj19HiingYTtmEOav3Sypyp3VYtoHEHqGjBdSoQvPAB/pFjkOz5kz O+ww== X-Received: by 10.152.148.4 with SMTP id to4mr15893018lab.39.1356211245849; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:20:45 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from SOL ([178.252.98.87]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id er8sm5879934lbb.9.2012.12.22.13.20.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:20:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1354994383.8564.YahooMailClassic@web141106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> (Kelly Dean's message of "Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:19:43 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (windows-nt) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.215.42 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:155781 Archived-At: Stefan, Could you comment on this offer to put the code into public domain? Is this possible and/or acceptable for Emacs? Kelly Dean writes: >> I'm not completely sure we want >> to use "C-h o" for its binding, tho I don't see any obvious >> reasons not to. > Since Drew's describe-option uses o, the remaining lowercase options are juxyz. Of those, I vote for x. > >> But now we have the reverse problem that this goes beyond >> the "tiny >> change" limit, so we'd need you to sign some copyright >> paperwork before >> we can accept it. Would you be willing to do that? > I disclaim copyright on it. It's in the public domain, except for whatever the > FSF already has copyright on, which I think is most of it, since it's mostly > copied from describe-function and describe-variable.