From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 15:16:08 +0900 Message-ID: <87txnm95xz.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87ober717z.fsf@gmail.com> <87a9pgayzy.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo9wyr74.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87y5d0m3l3.fsf@gmail.com> <515BE920.1000503@online.de> <87obdwvw6v.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <515BF509.2040706@online.de> <87k3ok9bq7.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <87r4ir4r19.fsf@gmail.com> <83bo9vir0k.fsf@gnu.org> <87hajn4muw.fsf@gmail.com> <83zjxfh9ik.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9pf4m4j.fsf@gmail.com> <83y5czh8qs.fsf@gnu.org> <8762034la9.fsf@gmail.com> <83wqsjh7tl.fsf@gnu.org> <87y5cz35r2.fsf@gmail.com> <83txnnh770.fsf@gnu.org> <87txnn350a.fsf@gmail.com> <83ppybh61i.fsf@gnu.org> <87mwtf33wr.fsf@gmail.com> <83obdvh5cm.fsf@gnu.org> <8738v7a2qm.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <1365030627.1819.1.camel@german-desktop> <87y5cz81ri.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8338v7gg44.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1365056184 23377 80.91.229.3 (4 Apr 2013 06:16:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 06:16:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: german@xelalug.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 04 08:16:51 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UNdTX-0002QG-9f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:16:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57859 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNdT8-0006Nq-CZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 02:16:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53863) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNdT4-0006Nd-Fh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 02:16:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNdT3-0003og-Fn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 02:16:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:41545) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNdT1-0003nY-UQ; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 02:16:12 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id C414F9708EF; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:16:08 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 86D621A3DCA; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:16:08 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <8338v7gg44.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta32) "habanero" b0d40183ac79 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158645 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > > I am un-willing to allow the users of Org mode to enjoy the > > privileges of my changes within the comforts of Emacs. > > So it's not GPL, it's "GPL with buts", a.k.a. non-free. Only the FSF can authorize a "GPL with buts" for Jambunathan's code, since it is derived from FSF-copyrighted code. I rather doubt it has done such a thing. So the GPL is Jambunathan's decision (implicit in his original decision to distribute his code by committing to a public repository), but the "but" is due to Emacs' assignment policy. Of course, Emacs is (legally and by license) free to make an exception to the assignment policy. But it won't, and that's what he counts on. > (Arguably, this is my interpretation of his intentionally vague > statement above. But given his unwillingness to explain those > restrictions, what other device do I have but interpret that in the > most extreme sense?) That shows your own ill-will, and nothing else. The simple route is to respect the law, the license, and Emacs' self- imposed restrictions, and interpret the situation in that light.