From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jambunathan K Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Frequently Enabled Packages - Emacs-24.4 survey (Please participate) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 22:42:28 +0530 Message-ID: <87txejnu6b.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87bo0x5e5p.fsf@gmail.com> <87a9gbsh9s.fsf@gmail.com> <878uvvwimw.fsf@gmx.de> <0fa69156-fdc1-4f59-8784-79d6ca899ec6@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386522951 28236 80.91.229.3 (8 Dec 2013 17:15:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 17:15:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 08 18:15:57 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VphxU-00039p-MA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2013 18:15:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40178 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VphxU-00036Z-71 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2013 12:15:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56865) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VphxL-00036Q-V7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2013 12:15:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VphxH-0005xQ-JU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2013 12:15:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pb0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c01::229]:51156) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VphxH-0005xG-A8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2013 12:15:43 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id jt11so3968522pbb.0 for ; Sun, 08 Dec 2013 09:15:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=LQuHnxHqhFcGoBlJmcFhiennoYFnC9vq19BwrR2MtlE=; b=neFqIHsN3JXeUClfo1o+C0xmT+njLmh9rlSf/3PYsRbacmghv6TkIQRbrdbM44j3uM NuvswiSHvOvnh2bVPVnIvyp5oTHvTysgbCK3rzEbuabJ+ydQHXAZnoQCrdNiRNT44r5Q Wonn1Y3V6GJqpcQjtcaLdwtpABhmMJ3fqQG0jTf5h/9oLe8eTmQL8VjrY2m1AGfklH/5 Z+RY8PZIjXEKZd0Nkt22DUoBkHmNtq4yxnb25xrAWpGvwIovYTf1b21xm9sJAqYkXmxO iW5zR21ZfzEH+kLkb0BpLgG7ixW9CbkSFFHbDaAAq1w3mne91cuwX0xSD3oA0aGfh8Nu e/2Q== X-Received: by 10.66.11.68 with SMTP id o4mr16333601pab.54.1386522942398; Sun, 08 Dec 2013 09:15:42 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.241.5.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id at4sm12096914pbc.30.2013.12.08.09.15.39 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 08 Dec 2013 09:15:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0fa69156-fdc1-4f59-8784-79d6ca899ec6@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 8 Dec 2013 07:23:40 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c01::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166207 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > Another thing to consider is that the table was empty to start > with, and different entries appeared at different points, when > someone thought to add them. Actually, it was seeded with my .emacs + Tom's initial list + Andrew's list - 1 vote for each of the features. > So, e.g., if the first person happened to add feature `blah' > to the list, then subsequent "voters" saw `blah' and considered > it. If `floop' was not added until much later (for whatever > reason), subsequent voters did not see `floop' until then. It was for this reason that at around the time when the participant count stood at 17, I added a list of all major and minor modes (by rgrepping for define-derived-mode and define-minor-mode in the src tree). It was generally felt by others that such a big and comprehensive list would actually drive people away. (This reasoning is perfeclty understandable.) I have dumped the list of major and minor modes in to a separate page of it's own. There are around 244 minor modes and 293 major/derived modes. See http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/List_Of_Major_And_Minor_Modes I couldn't think of any good reason why such a list would be useful. I generated the list and I felt why not save it for posterity? > It is what it is. Sure it is. It is Emacs users telling how they relate to their Emacs.