From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] trunk r117000: Untabify cl-macs.el Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 17:03:41 +0900 Message-ID: <87tx9nqfc2.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <5354663D.3050107@dancol.org> <837g6jduo5.fsf@gnu.org> <5354C519.9090005@dancol.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1398067591 18385 80.91.229.3 (21 Apr 2014 08:06:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 08:06:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 21 10:06:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wc9F6-0005Ip-3W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 10:06:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47943 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wc9F5-00024h-G4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 04:06:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49210) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wc9Ew-0001r9-77 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 04:06:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wc9Eo-0003K2-Nr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 04:06:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:52400) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wc9Eg-0002fw-IQ; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 04:05:54 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A957970AF9; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 17:03:41 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7D4861A339D; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 17:03:41 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <5354C519.9090005@dancol.org> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" 2a0f42961ed4 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:171520 Archived-At: Daniel Colascione writes: > In Lisp code, using tabs makes no sense: code is frequently lined > up precisely, so you get a mixture of tabs and spaces anyway, > making it impossible to use a different tab-width. Why would you > want to use tabs at all? It's an old (arguably bad) habit dating from the days where it saved core memory and disk space. I recall one Lisp for the 8080 whose lexer removed all nonsyntactic space and compressed syntactic space to a single SPC when transferring code from the disk read buffer to program text space. > > (It's an uphill battle you'll lose anyway, because many people, > > yours truly included, have indent-tabs-mode set non-nil, > > Don't do that then. Emacs Lisp is not Python, more's the pity. But I digress.... Nobody is going to change their settings to nil without a pronouncement from Stefan. And even that may not work if RMS is non-nil....