From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 07:43:39 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87tx15hu2s.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <2815659.zRQ0WWWeRr@descartes> <20141205175810.GD3120@thyrsus.com> <87lhmlncb1.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <20141205193643.GB5067@thyrsus.com> <83egsd3kyi.fsf@gnu.org> <871toapbh9.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <83ppbuxgxx.fsf@gnu.org> <83mw6yxeij.fsf@gnu.org> <8761dllwds.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d27tk4j9.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87sigpk3zk.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87oardk1kh.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418129148 29090 80.91.229.3 (9 Dec 2014 12:45:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 12:45:48 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 09 13:45:40 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XyKAe-0003r2-0x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:45:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39997 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyKAd-0006VW-Bw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 07:45:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53836) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyKAD-0006VJ-Vd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 07:45:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyKA8-0002jQ-2B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 07:45:13 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:59783) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyKA7-0002cw-S4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 07:45:07 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XyKA4-0003Zq-F3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:45:04 +0100 Original-Received: from c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.229.61.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:45:04 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:45:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 15 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:AdCQx3g3AuhRfFz7DIL4z1go+AI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179552 Archived-At: On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 03:18:54 +0100 David Kastrup wrote: DK> Yeah, it's too sad, all of those pages of finished documentation people DK> have lying around that are just missing the Texinfo markup because DK> nobody would want to overwork Eli or anybody else on the list. DK> Get real. Texinfo is not the excuse for not finishing documentation DK> work, it is the excuse for not even starting it. Get rid of Texinfo, DK> and people will find another excuse. I appreciate the sarcasm, but stand by my original statement that there's a texinfo 15-30 minute ramp-up time that's annoying and puts *me* off. You can call it an excuse if you wish. Ted