From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Exposing Isearch toggleable options Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2015 02:24:19 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87twp1fg32.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87611q7c3f.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <877fm5tefl.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87wpu3x4p4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <1bb5e765-6599-4076-b9c7-11b416a48db7@default> <87aa94f6-345b-4339-a444-6f3e712f00c5@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1446683307 5343 80.91.229.3 (5 Nov 2015 00:28:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 00:28:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: Artur Malabarba Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 05 01:28:18 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zu8PZ-0006N3-T3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2015 01:28:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57833 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zu8PY-00033Q-PP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2015 19:28:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42261) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zu8PK-000337-Ay for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2015 19:28:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zu8PH-0006qU-46 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2015 19:28:02 -0500 Original-Received: from sub3.mail.dreamhost.com ([69.163.253.7]:33123 helo=homiemail-a101.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zu8PG-0006qQ-Ua for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2015 19:27:59 -0500 Original-Received: from homiemail-a101.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a101.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65FC117E065; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 16:27:57 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost.linkov.net (85.253.135.195.cable.starman.ee [85.253.135.195]) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by homiemail-a101.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 14EFC117E06A; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 16:27:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Artur Malabarba's message of "Wed, 4 Nov 2015 11:51:34 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-Received-From: 69.163.253.7 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:193253 Archived-At: >> I've created a page at http://www.emacswiki.org specifically for gathe= ring >> such proposals, so we can review and revise them: >> >> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Proposals >> >> If you could add a link on that page to your proposed change, it would= help >> focus our discussion. > > Here we go: > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Isearch-prompt-proposal After learning about [F1 m] it might become too distracting to see it permanently. Of course, like =E2=80=98inhibit-startup-screen=E2=80=99= we could create a customization =E2=80=98inhibit-isearch-message-help=E2=80=99, but every= one has to make an effort to disable it, that's not too nice. A better option is to allow customization of the whole isearch echo area like =E2=80=98mode-line-format=E2=80=99 is used to customize the mode-lin= e. Then =E2=80=98isearch-message-format=E2=80=99 could support either full names = of search options/states, i.e. have a placeholder in the format string for every option in the mess= age (e.g. =E2=80=9C%'%cI-search%b=E2=80=9D for =E2=80=9CCase-fold case-sensit= ive I-search backward=E2=80=9D), thus allowing to customize their order or to remove some of them. Or cus= tomizing to use abbreviations (e.g. =E2=80=9CI-search/%w/%%_/%'=E2=80=9D for =E2=80= =9CI-search/w/_/'=E2=80=9D), where clicking on one of them will toggle the corresponding search option= .