From: Vitalie Spinu <spinuvit@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Syntax tables for multiple modes [was: bug#22983: syntax-ppss returns wrong result.]
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:31:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87twjzewc0.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv7fgwx7ln.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:02:12 -0400")
I have elaborated on all these in my other long reply. I would just conclude
here that because both calculate-indent-function and prog-indentation-context
try to solve same problem, they are bound to have overlapping parts. It's just
that calculate-indent-function is more general, easier to understand for prog
authors and it solves three problems at once - replacement of
indent-line-function, removing extra prog-indentation-context/prog-widen and not
exposing multi-mode complexities.
Note also that the intention of the `hard-widen-limit` is to make it work
seamlessly for all existing code that use widen. While prog-indentation-context
requires to teach every mode out there to use prog-widen instead of widen. This
doesn't sound right at all.
Vitalie
>> On Mon, Mar 21 2016 10:02, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> Note that I don't mind FIRST-COLUMN functionality. I think it's harmless and
>> probably useful. I mostly mind the last two arguments of
>> prog-indentation-context.
> OK, so you're OK with FIRST-COLUMN. The last two args are:
> - (START . END), which you actually do want, except you want to store it
> in hard-widen-limit. I'm OK with storing it elsewhere.
> - PREVIOUS-CHUNKS. It can be a string, in which case it's just like your
> STRING-BEFORE. So your main issues with it are either that you don't
> want to allow it to be a function, or that you want to store/pas it in
> a different way, right?
>>> Almost all of them care whether the current line contains }, or `end', or
>>> `else', and so on.
>> Indeed. But this information is trivial to retrieve from STRING-AFTER.
> In the case of SMIE, it would probably not be too difficult to adjust it
> so it can work with STRING-AFTER, tho I definitely wouldn't call it
> trivial to implement the case of "END END END aligns with the matching
> outer BEGIN" which is currently supported (and was default until 24.5 or
> so).
> But I must say that I don't understand why you need this
> STRING-AFTER thingy. Isn't that text already right there in the buffer?
> E.g. in prog-indentation-context, we do have something equivalent to
> hard-widen-limit and to STRING-BEFORE but we have nothing like
> STRING-AFTER: the indentation code is expected to get that info by
> looking at the buffer after point.
> Stefan
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2016-03-14 15:16 ` Syntax tables for multiple modes [was: bug#22983: syntax-ppss returns wrong result.] Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-14 17:34 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-14 20:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-19 22:51 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-20 2:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-20 12:15 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-20 15:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 1:05 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 3:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 5:05 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 7:13 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-21 12:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 14:13 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 14:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 16:42 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 18:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 19:16 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 20:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 20:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-21 20:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 21:03 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-21 21:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 16:45 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 22:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-22 14:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 18:17 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-23 1:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-23 13:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 18:26 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-23 2:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-23 10:56 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-23 11:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-23 12:39 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-23 13:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-23 15:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-23 21:51 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-24 7:30 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-21 11:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 5:08 ` [Patch] hard-widen-limits [was Re: Syntax tables for multiple modes [was: bug#22983: syntax-ppss returns wrong result.]] Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 12:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 12:54 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 14:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 14:14 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 14:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 14:33 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 14:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 17:16 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 18:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 19:18 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-22 3:17 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-22 9:57 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-22 10:05 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-22 11:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 16:28 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-22 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 19:36 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-23 2:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-23 11:41 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-23 12:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-23 12:41 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-29 21:43 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-04-22 14:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-04-24 7:22 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-04-24 7:28 ` Achim Gratz
2016-04-24 11:33 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-04-24 13:20 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-04-24 16:11 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-04-24 16:19 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-04-24 16:41 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-04-24 16:48 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-04-24 18:01 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-04-24 19:05 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-04-28 13:29 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-04-30 14:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 20:08 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-22 22:45 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 11:47 ` Syntax tables for multiple modes [was: bug#22983: syntax-ppss returns wrong result.] Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 12:40 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 13:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 14:20 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 14:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 14:42 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 14:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 16:52 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 21:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-04-03 23:34 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-21 14:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 14:31 ` Vitalie Spinu [this message]
2016-03-21 15:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 17:15 ` Andreas Röhler
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