From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 16:15:10 +0200 Message-ID: <87twg0cj2p.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <87twg2g86g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83eg76n5h5.fsf@gnu.org> <87y45eeoor.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8337nmn2pd.fsf@gnu.org> <87shvmem2c.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87oa6adz3w.fsf@lifelogs.com> <577E056B.1060705@cs.ucla.edu> <871t35egck.fsf@lifelogs.com> <577E6697.8090603@cs.ucla.edu> <87furle9tc.fsf@wanadoo.es> <8737nkdy8a.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467987636 10537 80.91.229.3 (8 Jul 2016 14:20:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 14:20:36 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 08 16:20:27 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bLWdm-00013C-Ps for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 16:20:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45895 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLWdg-0007jC-Tb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 10:20:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50996) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLWdY-0007fg-CE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 10:20:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLWdS-00015o-AS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 10:20:11 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:34921) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLWdS-00015T-34 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 10:20:06 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bLWdQ-0000ob-F1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 16:20:04 +0200 Original-Received: from 141.red-217-125-182.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([217.125.182.141]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 16:20:04 +0200 Original-Received: from ofv by 141.red-217-125-182.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 16:20:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 13 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.red-217-125-182.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:YPfUxU0xqnC5Eu4rLiUqh5O0lvc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205437 Archived-At: Óscar Fuentes writes: Sorry, sent too early. > But the real damage ChangeLogs cause is their formulaic, almost mechanic > aspect: people write a lot of minutiae instead of writing a commit > message intended to help the reader, the same way good code comments are > written. It is true that some hackers write good commit messages *and* > ChangeLogs, but I'm under the impression that most people just write the > changelog and consider that their job is done (after all, current policy > for commit messages is to write a summary line and the ... Changelog just below.)