From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving GNU ELPA Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 17:20:33 +0100 Message-ID: <87tw29ogxa.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <87r2xg2wra.fsf@bernoul.li> <87pod02swk.fsf@bernoul.li> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1500395547 32306 195.159.176.226 (18 Jul 2017 16:32:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 16:32:27 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 18 18:32:23 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dXVQ5-00083C-Fj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 18:32:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57749 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXVQB-0005dn-1Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 12:32:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49159) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXVEl-00027B-4r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 12:20:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXVEh-0006Lq-Se for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 12:20:39 -0400 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:42035) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXVEh-0006Le-Ig for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 12:20:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=tqSlZ7aUpq8VxJxVOnskmnoTu9XvGfkpVlJH5OJWgXU=; b=3ZmOOll/mYLJfRJPnDveb7Pg+ KA0kqriZp+L0x3IubXoFH+xrEYU2kRWkzZut8+uZ7rrO7krvyMX+pStOYVtstgY8xDsdUKRz38ifH 7p85wGtc2Atk1ffPl4wji/JMQG6kNocuLzc9ddXwJtO6DuC68WPnYvHP8ojkiN1/iby9ct4CYrbcK nNZCc6ICBBS2xd8USSD2xZ8uvtKvzmmSLOetkT4zFiX7p67ZP+gOo3JGYGcscs/wcl0wGMfXajIU1 n6KNqUFn2iUgriS2hZzy9IzXlmDjTxefe7sP8PIH0b0mHdvDZw8IuWMd+BbBKi+ZgWFmBuXiOGxCw G7NfGSc5A==; Original-Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-75.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.75]:44377 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dXVEg-0037jf-7W; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 16:20:34 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:39:17 -0400") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 78.129.138.110 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216848 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> What are the current rules for using a separate upstream >> in ELPA? > > There are no real rules, here, other than the fact that elpa.git may be > modified by us directly, so if the maintainer decides to keep the > "upstream" elsewhere it's his responsibility to deal with the fallout This bit I don't like! > [ We try to help with that by automatically sending her an email with > the diffs that have been installed, tho this automatic forwarding is > currently broken, as mentioned earlier in this thread: > > > - when someone commits to elpa.git we get an elpa-diffs email which > > I used to then forward to the corresponding package maintainer. > > This forwarding is currently broken because of changes to my > > email server. This should really be done in elpa.gnu.org instead of > > iro.umontreal.ca anyway, so I don't intend to fix the old setup. > > Help would be very warmly welcome here. ] > > More generally: it's not ideas that are missing, it's people helping > improve the setup. What sort of commits do you do locally? Would scripting something to branch, and do git-request-pull to the upstream be a substitute? Phil