From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phillip Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 17:05:14 +0100 Message-ID: <87tvev1epx.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <87mukocyze.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83v9zceb3n.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="155896"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: bjourne@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 18 18:11:27 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hH9dE-000eLr-Fw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 18:11:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43837 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hH9dD-0000PZ-A8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 12:11:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52789) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hH9cx-0000NT-SR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 12:11:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hH9cw-0007ym-Vn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 12:11:07 -0400 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:45014) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hH9cu-0007Uc-Hi; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 12:11:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID :Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=vO6E83GAKDERi2LY3gW+smATANrr1ZVj3Vm2xJAuV9Y=; b=Va4pKJ9fa4tYOEsLNAA0XhRRN Y+hgU/6RhFYstO4GNsrL5aMR0zelxKapfV+Ui1a1FUl0I8N4CR3XPPEILHGV6ButUNSlmqKXwDOAD nwarc2Sv0pNuwQYgka276gRyXeoOfM4p+2bkRTSpDZc2TjvFWjMf4OCW8A4KgnXRl/BXRA/Oq4+OB jQPm/5dBgcUocnJjPMzDCUid7k3m93g2nBLg4QmnTIBAWsBws40sh90wBUIfnb1O5CccmBnexPbJa Qz0Luxj6bt8elIAPBPSqQ5g0GKexmhvGdevH1axgWpwwyjVTMrIKwlyLhTfzRRKLDjoEBOyQJTCH0 D3mwI/1hA==; Original-Received: from cpc142652-benw12-2-0-cust953.16-2.cable.virginm.net ([82.21.43.186]:60350 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1hH9cF-0008Pt-8w; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 17:10:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83v9zceb3n.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 17 Apr 2019 21:32:44 +0300") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 78.129.138.110 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:235623 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 18:39:49 +0100 >> >> > Fair enough. But what optional features are missing from the >> > -no-deps.zip file? GnuTLS support in eww? >> >> Image support is the one most people would hit I think. I have no >> evidence for this statement of course. > > It isn't just images. TLS support is important for package.el, > something that is very popular these days. People who want to use LSP > and related packages will want JSON support. > >> I am entirely happy to either not add the debug info, or to put >> it in a different file. I know how to do the former not the latter. > > I can tell how to do the latter, if you want. It boils down to > running 2 objcopy commands. So many options! Again, happy to do whatever can be fitted into my shell script that I use to build the zip files. Phil