From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bloat in Windows (revisited) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 16:59:50 +0100 Message-ID: <87tvco5hjd.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <874l53g0yk.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83y32erdlt.fsf@gnu.org> <87imtieaiv.fsf@russet.org.uk> <871s01uo4c.fsf@russet.org.uk> <838su5z812.fsf@gnu.org> <8f0cc494-50fd-c1b0-d667-48831ca8dc13@gmail.com> <8736kdxj8m.fsf@russet.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="130260"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1.90 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nikolay Kudryavtsev Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 17 18:26:19 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hcuSY-000Xnr-96 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:26:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49092 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hcuSW-0007TW-Qb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 12:26:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44492) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hcu5l-0004zx-4l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 12:02:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hcu5j-0007LA-5t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 12:02:45 -0400 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:34016) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hcu5f-0006Tg-A9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 12:02:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID :Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=7kXOngyWkL57PvrtTvc1cCC2l0MxnQOh67JPWsTrLMU=; b=bwr0Q6D1pafO+uplZjFLYUKGB RfZ8pO2HVvBMA4ip9QHYspnvzboj2ThNvq+Dp+3RW3UWFU86xQJe2D3zPhiM15SUHlmO1v3tAiJkJ zFo/uAvWk91E0PWlZWJy87PwQDg3DG6dX5RY79oXqvFFuY9ub7g7Zki54kp/m+PLbJbXdFcX+qsBh 87Wck75yMWCA9d6ooyB8N/2Kg0hVXy9kzXhSdYYWdpdFwL50bipaKt97niadXf6OTeKkwWfK+YKAY 6qom56hQdJRkxqYKXLML7DgqoL5YzqqsD7l+MTmR2+ggJ3ojRWs/U4/CmgChi1IjJgwcWzcMQOp53 vRMQ5Lxpg==; Original-Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-45.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.45]:17803 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hcu4x-0001tH-3d; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:01:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Nikolay Kudryavtsev's message of "Fri, 14 Jun 2019 11:19:05 +0300") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 78.129.138.110 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:237789 Archived-At: Nikolay Kudryavtsev writes: > I see. You asking for help with Windows made me assume too much. Since > MinGW64 can be ran on Unix, I assumed that you managed to do just > that. Actually have anyone ever tried that? Is there some big problem > that would prevent this from working, or it's just a lot of work in > adapting scripts and getting dependencies compiling? Eli can probably answer this much better than I. For Emacs-26, there is unexec functionality which is going to be platform specific, although I presume that problem goes away with the portable dumper which is (I guess) portable. After that, the basic problem is that Emacs is build using Emacs; first temacs, then bootstrap-emacs. So, you have to be able to run Emacs on the platform that you are building it on, which conflicts with the idea of cross compliation. Phil