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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: "Elias Mårtenson" <lokedhs@gmail.com>
Cc: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>,
	Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Tabs
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2019 22:27:46 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tv9ubirx.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADtN0WKCHd9fA-tCaGckHFQ59+6ns72NdGrvAdKHss0GLYFZ6g@mail.gmail.com> ("Elias \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?M\=E5rtenson\=22's\?\= message of "Mon, 2 Sep 2019 18:11:36 +0800")

> Is it truly wise to have the word “tab” as part of the name of this
> feature? The word “tab” (when not referring to codepoint U+0009 CHARACTER
> TABULATION) usually refers to the specific visual indication that resembles
> a row of tabs in old filing cabinets. The feature itself doesn't really
> have that much to do with tabs of either kind.

A row of tabs in filing cabinets and notebooks is a good analogy to what
these visual elements are intended for.

> I'm raising this because I initially had no idea what this was about
> (thinking it referred to U+0009) and even after figuring it out, I'm still
> confused by the names of the functions and modes.
>
> A term that uniquely describes the actual feature would be very helpful in
> reducing confusion. Especially among people who have never heard about the
> functionality before.

Actually there is not much confusion between two terms - on the
Wikipedia disambiguation page there are two separate definitions:

  Computing and technology
    Tab (interface), a visual marker in a computer application
    Tab key, on a keyboard

Even the Emacs Glossary at (info "(emacs) Glossary") defines the TAB
using a special syntax where all letters are in upper case:

  <TAB>
       <TAB> is the tab character.  In Emacs it is typically used for
       indentation or completion.

So in the documentation when mentioned as a key, the term is usually
in upper-case as TAB, or more disambiguation is added such as in
“tab key” or “tab character” - these are different things too: the
former is a key on the keyboard, the latter is a character usually
displayed as 8 spaces, but there is not much confusion between them too.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-09-02 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 211+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-31 20:45 Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-01  8:12 ` Tabs martin rudalics
2019-09-01 14:40   ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-01 19:57   ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-02  0:40     ` Tabs Stefan Kangas
2019-09-02 10:11       ` Tabs Elias Mårtenson
2019-09-02 11:16         ` Tabs Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-02 19:27         ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2019-09-03  5:21           ` Tabs Jean Louis
2019-09-03 19:40             ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-03 20:14               ` Tabs Jean Louis
2019-09-02 19:17       ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-03  5:45         ` Tabs Yuri Khan
2019-09-03 19:45           ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-15 16:44         ` Tabs Stefan Kangas
2019-09-15 21:17           ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-02  2:29     ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-02 19:29       ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-03  2:27         ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-01  8:59 ` Tabs (on macos) Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-09-01 20:11   ` Juri Linkov
2019-09-16 13:41     ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-16 20:33       ` Juri Linkov
2019-09-17  9:11         ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-17  9:29           ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-17 20:28             ` Juri Linkov
2019-09-17 22:38               ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-20 18:26               ` Alan Third
2019-09-17 23:29             ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-01  9:28 ` Tabs Alan Mackenzie
2019-09-01 19:18   ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-01 12:31 ` Tabs Ergus
2019-09-01 19:31   ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-02  4:51     ` Tabs Ergus
2019-09-02 19:33       ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-02 21:06         ` Tabs Stefan Monnier
2019-09-03 19:56           ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-03  2:30         ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-03 19:58           ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-03  5:39         ` Tabs Ergus
2019-09-05 22:24         ` Tabs Ergus
2019-09-07 20:14           ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-02 12:41     ` Tabs Stefan Monnier
2019-09-02 19:39       ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-02 21:03         ` Tabs Stefan Monnier
2019-09-03 12:22 ` Tabs Robert Pluim
2019-09-03 20:21   ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-15 19:21 ` Tabs Stefan Kangas
2019-09-15 21:32   ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-16  4:19     ` Tabs Yuri Khan
2019-09-16 20:59       ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-17  5:29         ` Tabs Yuri Khan
2019-09-17 20:37           ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-17 22:53             ` Tabs Drew Adams
2019-09-28 17:06     ` Tabs Stefan Kangas
2019-09-28 19:52       ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-20 22:38         ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-11-02 21:40       ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-19 23:57 ` Tabs Michael Heerdegen
2019-09-21 22:45   ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-22  0:31     ` Tabs Michael Heerdegen
2019-09-25 20:15       ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-05 13:57         ` Tabs Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-05 22:12           ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-06  8:22             ` Tabs Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-06 12:09               ` Tabs Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-06 15:16                 ` Tabs Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-06 17:49                 ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-06 17:55                   ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-06 18:05                     ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-06 18:58                       ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-06 18:59                       ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-06 19:08                         ` Tabs Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-06 19:11                         ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-06 19:21                           ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-06 19:58                             ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-07 16:05                               ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-07 16:53                                 ` Tabs Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-07 17:12                                   ` Tabs Ergus
2019-10-07 18:24                                     ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-07 19:28                                       ` Tabs Ergus
2019-10-08  7:42                                         ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-08  8:56                                           ` Tabs Ergus
2019-10-08  9:18                                             ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-08 13:58                                               ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-08 16:00                                               ` Tabs Ergus
2019-10-08 16:18                                                 ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-08 16:40                                                   ` Tabs Ergus
2019-10-08 17:03                                                     ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-08 23:43                                                       ` Tabs Ergus
2019-10-09  8:37                                                         ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-09 10:39                                                           ` Tabs Ergus
2019-10-09 11:35                                                             ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-09 12:05                                                               ` Tabs Ergus
2019-10-09 12:18                                                                 ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-09 12:32                                                                 ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-09 18:12                                                                   ` Tabs martin rudalics
2019-10-09 18:46                                                                     ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-10  9:15                                                                       ` Tabs martin rudalics
2019-10-10  9:59                                                                         ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-10 10:38                                                                           ` Tabs martin rudalics
2019-10-10 11:33                                                                             ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-10 11:53                                                                               ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-10 14:58                                                                                 ` Tabs martin rudalics
2019-10-09 12:36                                                                 ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-09 13:55                                                                   ` Tabs Ergus
2019-10-09 14:21                                                                     ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-09 15:15                                                                       ` Tabs Ergus
2019-10-09 15:35                                                                         ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-10 11:52                                                                           ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-10 13:12                                                                             ` Tabs Ergus
2019-10-10 13:54                                                                               ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-10 14:19                                                                                 ` Tabs Ergus
2019-10-10 15:03                                                                                   ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-10 15:35                                                                                     ` Tabs martin rudalics
2019-10-10 15:46                                                                                       ` Tabs Ergus
2019-10-10 18:14                                                                                         ` Tabs martin rudalics
2019-10-10 18:26                                                                                           ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-11  8:18                                                                                             ` Tabs martin rudalics
2019-10-11  9:16                                                                                               ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16  9:16                                                                                   ` Tabs martin rudalics
2019-10-10 13:29                                                                             ` Tabs Ergus
2019-10-10 13:47                                                                               ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-10 14:15                                                                                 ` Tabs Ergus
2019-10-10 14:40                                                                                 ` Tabs Ergus
2019-10-10 15:11                                                                                   ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-10 20:54                                                                                   ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-11  7:08                                                                                     ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-13 20:57                                                                                       ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-09 22:37                                                                       ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-10  7:51                                                                         ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-10 22:35                                                                           ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-11  8:18                                                                             ` Tabs martin rudalics
2019-10-12 22:42                                                                               ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-13  8:16                                                                                 ` Tabs martin rudalics
2019-10-14 18:02                                                                                   ` Tabs martin rudalics
2019-10-14 18:29                                                                                     ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-15  9:47                                                                                       ` Tabs martin rudalics
2019-10-14 19:35                                                                                     ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-14 21:17                                                                                       ` Tabs T.V Raman
2019-10-14 21:53                                                                                         ` Tabs Phil Sainty
2019-10-14 22:00                                                                                           ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-14 22:36                                                                                             ` Tabs T.V Raman
2019-10-15 20:39                                                                                               ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-16  0:14                                                                                                 ` Tabs T.V Raman
2019-10-15  6:12                                                                                         ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-15  9:47                                                                                       ` Tabs martin rudalics
2019-10-15 17:45                                                                                         ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-16  9:16                                                                                           ` Tabs martin rudalics
2019-10-14 19:00                                                                                   ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-15  9:47                                                                                     ` Tabs martin rudalics
2019-10-11  9:20                                                                             ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-12 22:47                                                                               ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-13  6:51                                                                                 ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-13 20:48                                                                                   ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-13 21:09                                                                                     ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-13 21:33                                                                                       ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-14  8:24                                                                                         ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-07 17:58                                   ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-07 19:11                                 ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-06 18:38                     ` Tabs Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-06 19:03                       ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-06 18:56                     ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-08 19:15               ` Tabs Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-09 22:48                 ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-10 11:06                   ` Tabs Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-10 20:59                     ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-13  9:32                       ` Tabs Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-13 20:24                         ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-15 14:42                           ` Tabs Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-19 22:51                             ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-25 11:19                               ` Tabs Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-26 22:40                                 ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-29 19:09                                   ` Tabs Michael Heerdegen
2019-11-05 23:24                                     ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-11-08 18:45                                       ` Tabs Michael Heerdegen
2019-11-08 19:56                                         ` Tabs Michael Heerdegen
2019-11-12 21:31                                           ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-11-13 16:47                                             ` Tabs Michael Heerdegen
2019-11-13 22:10                                               ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-11-14  9:20                                                 ` Tabs martin rudalics
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-09-02 13:31 Tabs Angelo Graziosi
2019-09-02 19:46 ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-03  8:49   ` Tabs Angelo Graziosi
2019-09-03 19:48     ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-04  8:22       ` Tabs Angelo Graziosi
2019-09-04 19:05         ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-04 22:41           ` Tabs Angelo Graziosi
2019-09-05 21:40           ` Tabs Angelo Graziosi
2019-09-06 20:16             ` Tabs Angelo Graziosi
2019-09-07 20:28             ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-08 20:19             ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-16  7:56               ` Tabs Angelo Graziosi
2019-09-16  8:45                 ` Tabs Angelo Graziosi
2019-09-16 20:43                   ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-13 14:49                     ` Tabs Angelo Graziosi
2019-10-13 15:07                       ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-13 21:09                         ` Tabs Angelo Graziosi
2019-10-14  8:23                           ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-15 21:38                             ` Tabs Angelo Graziosi
2019-10-16  6:53                               ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-13 22:08                         ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-14  6:37                           ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-15  7:55                             ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-15 19:44                               ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-16  6:23                                 ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 22:17                                   ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-10-17  7:17                                     ` Tabs Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-13 22:01                       ` Tabs Juri Linkov
2019-09-03  9:20 Tabs Angelo Graziosi
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2019-09-03 15:24             ` Tabs Drew Adams

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