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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::729 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:244105 Archived-At: > I think such a warning is not a solution, because it's all to easy to > miss it. It could even be an annoyance. > > But that's my opinion; let's hear others. I am one of many people who was confused by this change as well. I agree that we should (at least) give a warning during startup. If you believe it's too easy to miss it, a y-or-n prompt notifying ~/.config/emacs creation would be much better, though I might be asking too much. I don't think it will be an annoyance, because this warning/prompt should only occur in the first ever startup of Emacs, prior to creating any configuration file. If configuration exists either in ~/.emacs.d or ~/.config/emacs, the user should never see this message again. Matthew