From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?B?R8O2a3R1xJ8=?= Kayaalp Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 13:50:51 +0300 Message-ID: <87tuw4twms.fsf@gkayaalp.com> References: <87mu1xrjqw.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <48ed4897-356c-4669-a330-1fdb5d65402b@default> <83lfhhijbl.fsf@gnu.org> <871rj9uz12.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <875z8k4wv8.fsf@posteo.net> <83pn6shjni.fsf@gnu.org> <20200911074445.GB5194@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4463"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.2.0; emacs 28.0.50 To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 11 12:51:32 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGgeS-000134-87 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 12:51:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50778 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGgeR-0004yW-Am for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 06:51:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36918) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGgdv-0004Y8-Lt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 06:50:59 -0400 Original-Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:57159) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGgds-0003d9-DY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 06:50:59 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 149.0.50.61 Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [149.0.50.61]) (Authenticated sender: self@gkayaalp.com) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E05C60015 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 10:50:53 +0000 (UTC) In-reply-to: <20200911074445.GB5194@tuxteam.de> Received-SPF: none client-ip=217.70.183.195; envelope-from=self@gkayaalp.com; helo=relay3-d.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/11 06:50:54 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255134 Archived-At: On 2020-09-11 10:44 +03, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: >> I think the reason is likely to be compatibility with mobile platforms, >> where screen space is at premium. > > This is a friendly interpretation. You're such a friendly person [1]. > > Me? I'd say the Hamburger menu is the latest fad, to be taken over > next year by the Sushi menu, or the Falafel-Halloumi-Magali menu, > depending on the alignment of the stars. This is so true... Tho it=E2=80=99s a fact that there are two main sources of UI =E2=80=98inno= vation=E2=80=99 in desktop these days: copy web and copy mobile. Another fact is we already have hamburger menus in Emacs: the onese bound to C-mouse. > Never forget that the current trendsetters care for user's well-being > as much as the cattle-herders care for their cattle's well-being. > > They are the wares. Their customers are elsewhere. > > Cheers > > [1] Someone might be tempted to read irony in this. That'd be wrong. > > - t -- =C4=B0. G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F Kayaalp / @cadadr / pgp: 024C 30DD 597D 142B 49AC 40EB 465C D949 B101 2427