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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262055 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > > Thus I would prefer to just compile the Fluent syntax into Lisp > > functions rather than to write a new interpreter. > > Fluent offers a possible way of improving translation handling for the > whole GNU system. That's what's really exciting. It would make no > sese to do as much effort, or perhaps even more, to get support for > Emacs only and no other programs. In principle I agree. > Rust is not an option for the GNU system. It has to be C. In practice, I find it sad that you would tie the success of GNU to the fashion for a single programming language. C has been successful so far, and has lent that success to GNU, but it seems unusual to decide that the GNU project could never embrace another language and allow it to become coequal with C. But of course it's not my decision. > I will bring this up in gnu-prog-discuss when I dig up the > link about Fluent from the previous messages. https://www.projectfluent.org/ > Is Fluent a trademark? Is there a trademark license in Fluent? > If so, could you please send me the full text of that, as well as its URL? Good question; I'm not really sure. It's a Mozilla project, so I assume it's like Firefox. I'll check. db48x