From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Repurpose one key and reserve it for third-party packages Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2021 15:58:22 +0100 Message-ID: <87tuqmli7l.fsf@gnus.org> References: <7ef75c33936136eb3a20@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7025"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Gregory Heytings , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 08 22:07:48 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9Dl6-0001hk-1E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 22:07:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51472 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9Dl5-0002If-29 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 16:07:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35272) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9802-00005H-AI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 09:58:53 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:38162) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l97zr-0001Ux-SP; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 09:58:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=lblOkwNN1JtSPY48OC1Y8XZcRvuT35GdQDHPIwe+X6s=; b=RO/tdm9wrqb3Gc17tgLUHQcpf+ 28Ob+Eh73wwQl2BWmeoEBFbxulVJHm5XlCKAp4c8+Ad8tnv5V8IrGBBK2hiZyHgZ5oOBwmUZStAY+ 5ZdbQg9VJMVcA7F+PG2pt21Vj0IPLddAkXLwmrXAueuLKoda/0AAfr1Om/hgXm8igzsc=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l97zc-0007SY-8Q; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 15:58:29 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAALVBMVEW3jhS8kRXEmBa5 jQ3BkQvr3aPPqTnt69na18XOybfCvKuzrJzXtk+kk3H///98i5JfAAAAAWJLR0QOb70wTwAAAAd0 SU1FB+UCCA44I4pPu50AAAFvSURBVDjLrdTRcYMgGAdw3QDIAoXYLpAR4grdoBd96DuYDiDaAcQ6 gHIZINpe3nodotNUCAqacn3p/yEn+eXTwAcGgQ3Qn2GwCLwmACEM1QVYwZwJ1K+IBxDB1+8QXgAi BghRVxbUEGGCMdFyNz+bLOMF/AdAH+g/9XvFZhfH+3i3jyeZ4P7R5MmFsSChrBYnmdNPB0IFrBya eqjzFWyTrHoVDR1aB9TKbhLBBOciqyzovmxSqYDLswWgYJt2NKOsKtpVRZSKYvh4/y6EBd2bbcoL ejm/OKALSJTyjl76ppcLQChKK96N82D9EkiUiHNGj+48Qr3iUcJpXuaS2nlAA3l7zN9o391AVg5l LUXvANbA6pNsZN06QDRQysYlYXbZTVMfDofnr8MYsoIo1nFa62wDtXuJBfJ7AvR/ALEPkA8g9ALy AfQCRGPX9SlcgznH6iib++LrLrGZChSorQhuZH6XgGABWA3n5yCAkRH8AyESw+NI6ndTAAAAJXRF WHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTAyLTA4VDE0OjU2OjM1KzAwOjAw4VvkLQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpt b2RpZnkAMjAyMS0wMi0wOFQxNDo1NjozNSswMDowMJAGXJEAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Chantal Acda's _Oscarsongs_: "For David" In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Mon, 8 Feb 2021 01:20:27 -0600") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264176 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > (But I personally still maintain that `C-z' should just be changed to > `undo'.) The problem is that `C-z' is really useful in a terminal, and having the keystrokes diverge to a great degree between GUI Emacs and terminal Emacs would be unfortunate. > Of the global M-bindings, `M-o' seems least useful to me. Indeed. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no