From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why does Gnus article-moving act like a fetch of new news? Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 12:56:46 -0500 Message-ID: <87tuobs7xd.fsf@red-bean.com> References: <87lf9rruzl.fsf@red-bean.com> <87wnt824dq.fsf@gnus.org> <87eeffsaa6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Reply-To: Karl Fogel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39520"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Emacs Development To: Eric Abrahamsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 12 20:06:34 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lW0xG-000AAe-If for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 20:06:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56224 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lW0x7-0007Z8-Lv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 14:06:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58928) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lW0nv-0004rT-8A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 13:56:56 -0400 Original-Received: from sanpietro.red-bean.com ([45.79.25.59]:47434) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lW0nq-0007ZC-IV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 13:56:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=red-bean.com; s=202005newsp; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:Reply-To:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=UoCMTPbJpc9LQlUNoZ9FaFzkRcjq2S+HEjNni+PzM7U=; t=1618250208; x=1619459808; b=TjTVEC5MVbNCjhYqpWeM9nWyCO8JJP7joKrtjf7MU4Ms8R2fORP8EOS4oLmx0/IiRR1TOY8ZrA wwRK1Y/uolb98kopM/5ijO4JyMIb4Y/QIzxwQM12+bUzM8IrbUlLH0joe2BUIneASoBUFw3LB8rNr cEEylCffJ+z85QVCiX1nZC+bfypDhLO0zrJASRasU+QByX3ZVlMO537MMjZCWxrAEjXc4DPVW7+hX 0f+6Y8JsP86zhPcg6Imshe2NE/qWOGlC0HCIecA+73gRhNiCWNHLeNtDJTz9KJv8knx+YK8M6daaG ee8uSKpF17NmyTYECNwUoj0tG4rmfrFv+IjbQ==; Original-Received: from [12.106.183.66] (port=3824 helo=kwork) by sanpietro.red-bean.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lW0nn-00016t-DH; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 17:56:47 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87eeffsaa6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 12 Apr 2021 10:05:53 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=45.79.25.59; envelope-from=kfogel@red-bean.com; helo=sanpietro.red-bean.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267973 Archived-At: On 12 Apr 2021, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >So maybe `gnus-activate-group' would be sufficient? Though it >looks like the number-of-articles update is happening at line >10271, anyway. Karl, would you be willing to patch the function >to replace `gnus-group-get-new-news-this-group' with >`gnus-activate-group', and run that for a while and see if >anything terrible happens? Yes, I'll do that and set a bit to report back here in two weeks. I'm happy to be the Gnus test suite for a fortnight :-). Best regards, -Karl