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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277381 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> Hm... "key" would also work. It's perhaps more ambiguous, though. > > What ambiguity do you see? I end up with something like this: > >> key-define-map >> key-define >> key-global-set >> key-global-unset >> key-local-set >> key-local-unset >> key-lookup The ambiguity is that if you're reading code with define-key and/or key-define, the function names don't give you a hint about how they differ. > (Note that I prefer "global/local" before "set/unset", but the other > way around is fine too.) Yeah, -global-set/-global-unset looks good to me. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no