From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master e714b31 3/6: Merge from origin/emacs-28 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 10:25:11 +0100 Message-ID: <87tug9lsso.fsf@gnus.org> References: <20211106092430.31690.17236@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20211106092433.20A2420A22@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87zgqcgg3n.fsf@gmail.com> <87bl2rfprn.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6i3p64e.fsf@gnus.org> <83ilwqzxo5.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1bdyjhi.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36605"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 18 10:26:51 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mndgx-0009Hh-4H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 10:26:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59712 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mndgu-00046N-0H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 04:26:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46142) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mndfS-0002e2-UY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 04:25:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2] (port=35950 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mndfR-0003qF-Ct; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 04:25:18 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=vxpQAqBdBo6Wf36D3Vcn6nLTHv3HvL2MFeT4Str00M0=; b=T25TSg67h6gOYzF00tmPeA1iRD VLFFBaDh81Qw5faPr6d8U3so21z6wqrGj4dH1szaLxedYN79zCwLqltNtS8jNOd5jF8pmdJ/H+72c jfO0rT3/h8e38QuwDCwgabyBrEjmNgQwN7INJ1sV6kFa62YjLCJS1/cjUPsKNaTvai9s=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mndfM-0007q5-5Y; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 10:25:15 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAFVBMVEUJCAkqKiofHx8e HiBISEdAPz7///+cw1o9AAAAAWJLR0QGYWa4fQAAAAd0SU1FB+ULEgg1KekNhfYAAAGQSURBVDjL 5VNBchwhDBRSHjDA+g5DHiBoPyAb+wOpyv/fkgbW5XXKe3BVbpma2Rm6JTUttCL/z3U8Isr6xSM6 PabGF+TDj0/AzMf8n1mEtA/rXbnH+FvqtW65N7Mae6zTOp6j3zmsV3S2yhqxGN/x+Ep05H7Cq0v4 +U4sCfAmAbm84dfpLTZC1tKLtfC0t/OddTClucwNXE29uSE+PZV6AlRezNIPBys8abE20BQjdfGV Qrb0FN0KnVUchmxG0EoIlHDC2kTTITXBLy7P5cxgLGSYFjkPRwS+sb7NqNkwhXRHFrtk2z5sNqk3 ldFHzJGE79A5OOOkzuCIxAPhxdgzM8GpSBJSGVH6xavksRtssFFo99Qs4VV6hsP3QRnHIBzdprJr R18ixgDKaFGPg5/BkdZhoTKncW8YOTvT3TN0ZdxGs2gePrhGVL0bh2KagxMZ9VRanC7txsHmOwA3 67LfmQfi41fC/ifMIF/xaaqdMZW/Js50RnpYiN8RzKVPn2XbjZC7zZVJoPmHYuvLppGMP6M+Mp5c oDFnAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTExLTE4VDA4OjUzOjQwKzAwOjAwGa0n9gAAACV0 RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMS0xMS0xOFQwODo1Mzo0MCswMDowMGjwn0oAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Alasdair Roberts og =?utf-8?Q?V=C3=B6lvur's?= _The Old Fabled River_: "Nu solen =?utf-8?Q?g=C3=A5r?= ned" In-Reply-To: <83r1bdyjhi.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 18 Nov 2021 10:07:53 +0200") X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -35 X-Spam_score: -3.6 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279663 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > We have been over this already. You are repeating arguments that were > voiced before, and I already considered all of those arguments before > I made up my mind. How can I explain to you that reiterating them > will not change anything? I tried explaining that many times in many > different ways, and I still fail to get my point through. I tried > above one more time, in the(optimistic) hope that this time I will > succeed ;-) However, I can't see that you've really refuted Stefan's points here -- merging NEWS is a real problem, and Stefan's suggestions seem to fix those issues. The only downsides seems to be a nebulous "but it might break something". Which is true. I think the advantages here far outweigh the potential problems, though. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no