From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: dick Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: could matlab-mode be in ELPA or the GNU emacs tree (like auctex and org-mode)? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279847 Archived-At: PL> We support GNU Emacs on proprietary operating systems because we hope PL> this taste of freedom will inspire users to escape from them. Inertia is real, and institutions will always opt for circuitous rhetoric over policy reversal to avoid retcon'ing a longstanding inconsistency. GNU happens to be rather expert at this kind of casuistry. Without data, I agree with OP that if I were a Windows user, I imagine myself more inclined to stick with Windows if GNU offered a fully functioning emacs there (fortunately for GNU, it doesn't).