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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:280739 Archived-At: >>>>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2021 17:50:05 +0800, Po Lu said: Po> Robert Pluim writes: >> If you can find a solution to frame positioning, that would be >> wonderful, but I think that=CA=BCs a losing proposition, given the a= ttitude >> of Wayland. Po> I doubt it will work on Wayland, sadly. However, it ought to work = if Po> GDK_BACKEND is x11. I tend to agree. I did try creating a full-screen invisible top-level frame, and then creating the ordinary frames as child-frames of that, but it didn=CA=BCt work very well (and would no doubt get broken by some future change to Wayland and/or the compositors). Robert --=20