From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling native compilation by default when libgccjit is present Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2021 03:31:57 +0100 Message-ID: <87tufjvnc2.fsf@web.de> References: <87czmdqpv9.fsf@web.de> <83h7bo7rvz.fsf@gnu.org> <87bl1tjage.fsf@web.de> <877dchj9cu.fsf@web.de> <83ee6ozfb0.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29835"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 03:33:03 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mumlS-0007eI-Od for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 03:33:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54066 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mumlR-0004Ly-M1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 21:33:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43896) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mumkT-0003fn-Vr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 21:32:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.4]:44157) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mumkS-0007JJ-DE; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 21:32:01 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1638930718; bh=2XRrzf7i5VywjdyLSwUJ5FSg8gxZYAXNtJEev4N7oFM=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=OeXaJ7fckgtntEc8XadnZCAIYPXw/3vFzYp0NzQV31yGGUY/aZ0dmoLYLE0ZjgqlE 8aNJWy2kFM0kKs0En5YhiPOZ9jhdZniqGoaA63vmFcDvjx1mopoIbLZX0okeZo5xxf 6oNvPzMAKaMspO1dcBqg02T4Rxn7kl3UCbQVp8rY= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([92.208.225.87]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb006 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MaHSb-1n0eK31ban-00W9ON; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 03:31:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83ee6ozfb0.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 07 Dec 2021 15:59:31 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:TIHV2ExQ6yC6IDvj3TDWXpCfezt/+J3K9I82DT3c4zjxrYzenEs 7etkYV5ole6fypDel+YhjLrbj9m+UvJR7oqVtAPwyuoDT+6nNiB7xCbRWUvYYUrVcEah6fc 6IigUXc/T8YRy0o6DN/MIVxigAmIwkLRj4a3vzRaW8XGSj8fHoSI9Pt1l3qBucTbgzw9AGI ge/v+zsnlP/nKCICat3YQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:3E31wKAiErs=:SbuK7em/+o57b7b3WvMiFI fMcN5Jh4RigTHD2Z7JVaJXPDoCBpCfjPQ1HhDCw0W61lSgMf6CC7nImR0UjB9mBbvyGDaPj+O nJnW5/wyuCl0m2tjdi4ncqr9XEmk0tw25iZ2XXXJTa3uN53v0orM3tJ3BDtn9nxtIAlU/ARnJ XQlBu835JcLU+KdTBNqJzsaLQFjReqPPUChhrCVlNhb+Pale1NUS+rNntn+/cc15n6c7t943P FcwqRyupiJrORBeL+f7MkwhefBk7usjVqzByy3IF/vysh5aNMFgjnnBaCx5oPfNFo3PJPfUro 2tG+UEiX+Qel1a4MGeNzFlsDR1VgX2LpIklqsRjCyZqOqXI1g8G5S1bXfAqeltMJk8WV9lZFE 3hhBstLIVFkK78PM6CDeFm82Y4hqxZN220ZkNTljB/t71+HWTsNLkt81NHeU1Kvvykd7UXtYq PSpzHIrW6y2qs8paP8fB4/Vp8f6NZJ8V+I3g/y/EMb9aVllW735VvX91h/hTkkU+5I4dg9ohf YSX7WslDzJKk4VVCNkwLYM/yW/YGFcNBMfHGfzk6SnLg0Wza/A8fZj03K/JF5MJZo07oyTtfT NOBOWZaK8k+/hLKJytgJXxfOi1VuwA1uvUu1zT/2ficfH8W69y1Lini2c4tGxKEwr59OqFuCN gIYcXNVbFhML1qmgsZaHHwGF+r99cJ07MzTMetxFPW7SRWeJEc2EAo3EsARAdT3nwXty+m0Rz N+dj2XDYDNkwjvfiDxE7OjOuJ3VcZuGAYHlR4RE4ueUphmQ8+rXvflST8c/AhD70g/xMg5f8 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.4; envelope-from=michael_heerdegen@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281302 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Please report those cases as bugs. Ok, will do. So far adding `require' calls fixed everything I touched. > You get additional warnings because each of the *.el files is compiled > in a separate Emacs process, which starts from a clean state. By > contrast, it may be the case that your code says something like > > (require 'foo) > .... > (require 'bar) > > and 'bar' uses some stuff in 'foo' under the assumption that 'foo' is > always loaded before 'bar'. Since native-compilation will compile > 'foo' and 'bar' separately, it will emit warnings. So `foo' requiring `bar' is enough? Ok, that would be natural and normal, I expected something worse. Thanks for the explanation. Is this information unobvious enough to be added as a note to the manual text describing native compilation? Now is seems obvious to me but yesterday it wasn't. Michael.