From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Allowing point to be outside the window? Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2021 08:17:33 +0800 Message-ID: <87tufid42q.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <87ilwd7zaq.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87ilwd7zaq.fsf@yahoo.com> <83bl24yaed.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfvg7l51.fsf@yahoo.com> <87r1az6bpy.fsf@yahoo.com> <87ee6nx42p.fsf@ankarstrom.se> <834k7jxo33.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgpbi5ma.fsf@ankarstrom.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35999"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Rudolf Schlatte Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 09 01:18:46 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mv794-00099V-A1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2021 01:18:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45394 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mv793-00016L-4R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 19:18:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58072) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mv786-0000JK-Dd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 19:17:46 -0500 Original-Received: from sonic303-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.188.148]:46131) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mv784-0004jb-AC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 19:17:46 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1639009062; bh=S9kqB9B3Bso8USF790GHeIDtz4Z/oJqFYOGEXU+nJFA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=fq4V1L7TLv+beFio2TxsrJOVXRb4O+3JNM1LVj8vayhnv2C8C3SvrFEnLWeOAWmXP6sKoTo33Xz109lR3G57iyAkTI8qPB/P0yF1ZHNATm6DmPwijiJCAnuyWK0eYHqpGRvpy7nqV9wbAibEwacnC8sS4faY12KNAK1q318zdKhVR6qC4CZm9U04ado+QVqVd6NUawzA9vSnyNDiAzNiTRSZCe3dm4y4rdyfxwncxeubDC0ap1Tmq+6nA4JdxQ3/dEEQIMCuekD7lv0RkGR4facJOzlASGVwDzPlP0dCuHCevbMbb0Axzfeh2+DaUyM0zsheC+s5oFPZ7mQiuj1tjw== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1639009062; bh=MbS/IKFooMplAwJ9s9rpYP0949YQ1X92LgXL7c+VIZg=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=oSJh6pfdPkv1fxItX4zFrexkO+q/UJbA5moja14OyoE3Ewid6hfF5k0jsyaLROkBq1pE3+rM/VodwB1S3iolFpRKvMc2hytMU8/WlYdVqcCpiQ53kM19/FJAB6eplFXPacP65nUr79Vpi1k+V21XPqVe8JrCfKhpr1UdQJ+Mu7TsXIP+Sfxe3bal4Fb9zdHVrSsC/XoUWUWjHAAqJwIM+ZqvLsxezxEHrgoHAArX5lR0w753fvHapkz1o0+VebcNuHQF2OIzVKfU8n14uc8jwyPl81bC0H9MfXwvIqCYS3oMHIF3pQX6M6p3kwbL//2pHmJq5/MN3J2NhzdLWIB1WA== X-YMail-OSG: k9d6TckVM1kLbjjrpgAcC8fGRAokAqI1N_3qNen2cQcFOTpl5_6PA_V1aQ8DpQG VybYoXQksONSvkboUjP6_sSqETauHNqh0TqRiansSVmvEybWZScWbjWP4ZJAyTkDoyhM3S.QhpAT v0msrtWhnpBw30AoZXXW2a9SITeJjM04aNdslz3xA7UuTBMOzrDrkk_MOrWXt7Xx9Xl6Bg8DEELV CQNzdXGkirObfl.Oqeu0rsU4YujZS14BR9JSVEkE2zVOHSAumSm1RCq0nbK1xxyhm8iUfAwYQIoj qjomkHgIrRioTQsmSQ3LtHnQlLBSHQr.sF0YIsCjgtWj9JxRVgvpWzAv6MeC3fHAI6DoeF5V2_.l 8x__CJ5pMyWKB3Rp2yiV58rRAHT37xUxpFV89UclE_kWEwf2oWlIZ639.hqpeIx94bCRrc_zizpK ibPcSPm99HwPVPJJhNTen37hn7_qQXe7dV79cn5S36rXqWCxpRND8kJCqm67.oai6acM5aC.p7mj 2Zc2s7apNqAJjvDbEBB2Z20miKK2VieI3dKlBbl87DQesnBmWy8M2VhOC8kMrrNIQOgpC6ksC97b HX0OT1wHmhjx1JsQOk90ie97hRNShJJdhEOebzmqDs0X4rz_4aK_pXlxcLJw0umGT1BAO4MKh_zf fpPV.fGTaFKdpVl0.G8SYatAvYtanPiDROJ.7mdFsihKZFEMLllfzrjzhPiodr5RLuQJ1VqukgBw TvhByHd9hyf_1FLwOffis0971DvM2fim.iySZ2nYUNtUliRQDorIKvNPtT9avgv3ysN2BhbOzMp6 EHGc1Uu3atpFvtPqrlqAkKJLZowLHXXFG1dGm.257d X-Sonic-MF: Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic303.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Thu, 9 Dec 2021 00:17:42 +0000 Original-Received: by kubenode517.mail-prod1.omega.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 69833e6b092d29263b1a8f9dcd4e4281; Thu, 09 Dec 2021 00:17:38 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Rudolf Schlatte's message of "Wed, 08 Dec 2021 20:21:49 +0100") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19415 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.188.148; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic303-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281409 Archived-At: Rudolf Schlatte writes: > I briefly tested with two contemporary editors (Atom and VS Code), and > their behavior indeed differs between mouse-based and keyboard-based > scrolling: in the former case (scrolling via mouse), the cursor stays > put and moves out of view, while in the latter case (scrolling via the > PgDn key), the cursor changes position to stay on screen. Then I think we would do well to replicate this change.