From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Contradictiory directions Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 11:32:19 +0100 Message-ID: <87tufa40r0.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <20211211035614.15517.53830@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20211211035616.984DD20A0A@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87ee6j4ty4.fsf@yahoo.com> <8735mz4o70.fsf@yahoo.com> <83k0gbr0dm.fsf@gnu.org> <87y24r33bn.fsf@yahoo.com> <87ilvu1ldh.fsf@yahoo.com> <87a6h5tap6.fsf@gnus.org> <87tufbu7jg.fsf@yahoo.com> <87y24nr6nk.fsf@gnus.org> <87lf0ntz0t.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wnk6mjlm.fsf@gnus.org> <877dc6tjz0.fsf_-_@yahoo.com> <871r2e5g4u.fsf@telefonica.net> <87o85iqi7u.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12815"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:R6K/x4UIt+4kfpX0X0jCdcT4Be8= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 15 11:38:03 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mxRfd-00037q-EO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 11:38:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56594 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxRfc-0003T2-Cl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 05:38:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38606) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxRaP-0002vi-Ez for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 05:32:40 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:42554) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxRaN-0007Fh-2T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 05:32:36 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mxRaG-00066R-DI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 11:32:28 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282009 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: > Óscar Fuentes writes: > >> Propietary modules can define any symbol, so the >> "this_module_is_fine_with_gnus" or whatever trick is used on Emacs and >> gcc modules is even less of a solution. I can foresee a propietary >> module playing that trick, but changing the name of the module and >> creating a name collision with some of the most popular modules out >> there is a bit too risky even for the most adventurous propietary >> vendor. > > Then as RMS said, we should remove the feature wholesale, until a > solution is found. My point is that if the symbol trick is considered an acceptable solution, name-based blocking should be acceptable too because it is much more effective in practice.