From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey 2022 - design Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 21:52:52 +0200 Message-ID: <87tu9oylo4.fsf@gnu.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1579"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.7.21; emacs 29.0.50 Cc: Timothy , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 17 22:11:05 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nr3X6-0000K2-Lz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 22:11:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35268 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nr3X5-0001RP-My for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 16:11:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46524) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nr3Mt-0000Ot-AS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 16:00:31 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41014) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nr3Ms-0002r2-Ey; Tue, 17 May 2022 16:00:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:In-reply-to:Date:Subject:To:From: References; bh=KjWz/8DoBCWvKdDWKnIdKcbrhcn4QELgbPraACda/m0=; b=pkG68+jb7TiOD2 pBfCfRivNdJ3w4uvAew0JrHXn1957h7CTJXXm1jhemtNJY9f4OuMcvKvsWXQ8ykOPGRZH8P6+FPVP YEkCdUNKhA1sfV17c4taTWvUtNZ4B8SHuX2zWcLVqgh0aqN7V+Xzx4gk4I58zdGJ8D9YaKZ6KkVXH w/XpB4ZlDaSqdWxJAwXXxvSEYKwA5/8dNmnxRvReWKpNnLd5U8Y1Ul3RYSV72aej9rlZzke0v3kvD 9Q2nANc/SCqBW+/Y0TecCnv2jM4iIbmox/o3FZgPNvBYdOLUyNju3pi98+zyWYhbqHzM5t5kZcgkY BST3ji6a3NhkLsLVJ8EA==; Original-Received: from auth1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.227]:48947) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nr3Mc-0003D7-RC; Tue, 17 May 2022 16:00:29 -0400 Original-Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569B527C0054; Tue, 17 May 2022 16:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 17 May 2022 16:00:14 -0400 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvfedrheejgddugeduucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepfhgfhffvvefuffgjkfggtgesthdtredttdertdenucfhrhhomhepvfgrshhs ihhlohcujfhorhhnuceothhsughhsehgnhhurdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpe dujedtheduvdelffejkeetgedvheelhedvueefhfeukeekkeehvdfggeegffevgfenucev lhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehthhhorhhnod hmvghsmhhtphgruhhthhhpvghrshhonhgrlhhithihqdekieejfeekjeekgedqieefhedv leekqdhtshguhheppehgnhhurdhorhhgsehfrghsthhmrghilhdrfhhm X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: ib2b94485:Fastmail Original-Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue, 17 May 2022 16:00:13 -0400 (EDT) In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289877 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > I think "taking" is the better verb here instead of "doing", tho > hopefully some native anglophone can confirm. > >> SurveyPart("Packages", >> MultiSelect(:package_manager, >> "How do you manage third-party packages?", >> ["My framework/starter kit's default" => "framework default", >> "package.el (built-in)" => "package.el", >> "straight.el" => "straight.el", >> "use-package" => "use-package.el", >> "manual (git clone/download)" => "manual", >> "not sure", :other]), > > `use-package` looks out of place, since I don't think it offers any > facilities to download/install/update/uninstall packages. Really? (use-package foobar :ensure t) will download and install the foobar package. If it does that itself or tells package.el to do it doesn't really matter. FWIW, I'd select use-package in that question + package.el (for deletion) and auto-package-update (missing!) for updates without having to manually go through the *Packages* buffer. Bye, Tassilo