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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293699 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > (But note that our decisions here will probably not matter one whit to > most of our users -- Ubuntu/Debian will almost certainly continue to > distribute Emacs with a gtk toolkit.) Don't they listen to our choices?