From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Abysmal state of GTK build Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2022 18:51:17 +0200 Message-ID: <87tu65ilq2.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <87ilmlluxq.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87ilmlluxq.fsf@yahoo.com> <83h725deo3.fsf@gnu.org> <87bksdltah.fsf@yahoo.com> <87r119bni8.fsf@gmail.com> <87v8ql4kwk.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21099"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:JeFI3zHIV2e73RkD3TfzIcjqf6c= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 21 18:54:35 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oPoDb-0005IU-1U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 18:54:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43910 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oPoDa-0005QM-56 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 12:54:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38500) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oPoAa-0000Dp-I0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 12:51:29 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:48472) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oPoAY-0004wv-U0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 12:51:28 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oPoAW-00010g-CM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 18:51:24 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293751 Archived-At: Sean Whitton writes: > Hello, > > On Sun 21 Aug 2022 at 05:54PM +02, Robert Pluim wrote: > >> If Someone™ contributes a Qt port, that might >> do as well (there was a port of XEmacs to Qt several decades ago, so >> it definitely feasible). > > That would also get us another native Wayland backend, and probably one > that would could more heartily recommend to people. Emacs tends to do things on its specific way. Big fat frameworks like GTK and (even worse AFAIK) Qt provide high-level APIs and don't work very well when the user needs to deviate from them. Long time ago I proposed to investigate the feasibility of a Qt backend, which was a not very welcomed because it would entail C++ and... Qt. Rigth now I'll rather pick some low-level GUI library and build on top of it.