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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID bc2a3ece8e06fa7228a102ff9d68ff6b; Tue, 23 Aug 2022 13:01:39 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Tue, 23 Aug 2022 05:50:55 -0700") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20560 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.184.43; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic317-32.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293883 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > Po Lu writes: > >>> Do we really need those file names to be shorter? >> >> Yes, at present the over-long file names are pretty ugly. > > FWIW, I appreciate that you can tell what they are, even at a glance. > > Compare "haiku-font-support.cc" to something like "cm.c" or "unexcw.c". Sounds reasonable. I won't shorten the file names then, thanks.