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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294833 Archived-At: Robert Pluim writes: >>>>>> On Sun, 04 Sep 2022 08:14:54 +0300, Eli Zaretskii sai= d: > > >> From: Richard Stallman > >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > >> Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2022 23:01:31 -0400 > >>=20 > >> > No, this means functions like `set-frame-position' can't move th= e frame > >> > on the screen. The only way to move the frame is by the user dr= agging > >> > it with the mouse. > >>=20 > >> Thanks. > >>=20 > >> I don't know whether that limitation is necessary or justified in = some way, > >> but I think that most users don't use `set-frame-position'. > > Eli> Emacs itself uses set-frame-position. It also moves frames on d= isplay > Eli> via the 'top' and 'left' frame parameters. One notable case whe= re > Eli> this happens is the desktop.el package, which restores frame and > Eli> window configuration of a previous Emacs session. > > And there are packages that want to put frames at specific positions, > such as speedbar (plus the various "pop up frame" packages whose names > I can=CA=BCt recall right now) > > Eli> So I think the inability to do that is quite a big deal for Emacs > Eli> users. > > Yes. It=CA=BCs very annoying. Don=E2=80=99t forget about emacs --geometry, which sets top/left/width/heig= ht properties on the initial-frame-alist. db48x