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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296708 Archived-At: Rob Browning writes: > Though I'm not positive because if we still really need compilation for > the trampolines(?), then we may need to just follow the "redirect to a > tempdir" approach, which is also fine, and then the ability to disable > native compilation might not be relevant to the packaging. I'm not sure we need to save the trampolines at all (in this don't-do-native-compilation configuration) -- Andrea probably knows. Andrea, would it be possible to just create and use the trampolines without writing them to a file? > In either case, we might ideally want an EMACS_... var to make > propagation a bit easier if that sounds reasonable. Sure.