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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299179 Archived-At: Payas Relekar writes: > Philip Kaludercic writes: > >> Before this is done, I have a few comments on the current manual. In >> the section "Installing from an Elpa Archive", goes into how to >> configure MELPA/MELPA-Stable. Is this still necessary? It might also >> be a good idea to replace ".emacs" with "init.el", as this is the >> preferred configuration file AFAIK. I don't know how important this is, >> but there are minor typographical issues such as the inconsistent type >> setting of "use-package" (sometimes with @code, sometimes without), the >> overuse of @code when @var, @key or @kbd would be better or writing "see >> @ref" instead of using @xref/@pxref. > > Installation instructions should indeed point to GNU ELPA, and I will get to > fixing that by end of today. I converted the PR to draft to signal it is > incomplete for now. Ok. >> Also, it appears I was mistaken in assuming the manual was finished. >> There are still large holes: >> >> @node Getting Started >> @chapter Getting Started >> >> TODO@. For now, see @code{README.md}. >> >> @node Debugging Tools >> @chapter Debugging Tools >> >> TODO > > Philip, since we are targeting just ELPA, do you think this can be > worked on after publishing? Merging to mainline is a distant issue, and > fixing manual is a future step on that path, as listed before: Sure, I am not blocking anything, I just wasn't sure if this was a mistake or not. If this is the plan, feel free to proceed. My only real concern is that I had mistakenly said the documentation on elpa.gnu.org would be able to replace the contents of the doc/ directory, which isn't the case right now. >> 1. Get use-package in ELPA >> 2. Complete all documentation >> 3. Prepare documentation in texinfo >> Will cross that bridge when 2 is done. While we are at it, is there a rationale for this order? I mean, there is no hurry, right? My misunderstanding was that the order was 2 -> 3 -> 1. Or are you planning to have use-package ready for Emacs 29? >> 4. Add all relevant files to emacs.git >> TBD when 3 is done. >> 5. Ensure everything loads properly > --