From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Visuwesh Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Make peg.el a built-in library? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299348 Archived-At: [=E0=AE=9A=E0=AF=86=E0=AE=B5=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=B5=E0=AE=BE=E0=AE=AF=E0=AF=8D = =E0=AE=A8=E0=AE=B5=E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=AA=E0=AE=B0=E0=AF=8D 08, 2022] S= tefan Monnier wrote: >> And that's about the only hint you get. I was trying to parse a >> multiword name like >> >> Eric Edwin Abrahamsen > > Side note: the division between "given name" a "family name" is not > a universal property, so as general rule I'd advise against trying to do > it (and treat the whole thing as just "the name" without trying to > analyze its structure) unless there's some strong external factor that > requires it. +1. Nothing annoys me more than a form that says "First name", "Surname", and "Last name": I don't have a last name, just an initial. I usually put my father's "first name" as my last name when there's an absolute need to but then all the mails addressed to me make *zero* sense since they are addressed as Dear rather than Dear Visuwesh which always makes me doubt that I got my father's mail *somehow* instead. (Side side note: every single time my family needs to fill up a form, we have a ten minute meeting about what to do with the first-name-last-name situation; it is not fun as you can imagine.) =20=20=20=20 I sighed a breath of relief when the FSF CA form did not have anything like "last name". [ Ever since I came to the university campus, explaining that I have no "last name" has been a recurring and fun activity. ]