From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-29 b44a7ff85dc: Allow 'icon-title-format' to have the value t Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 16:22:59 +0100 Message-ID: <87ttzdohbg.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <167661970773.22310.13511166994278322415@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20230217074148.2E130C1391A@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87bklooy1e.fsf@telefonica.net> <83pma3tdvo.fsf@gnu.org> <877cwboydd.fsf@telefonica.net> <83zg97rqdg.fsf@gnu.org> <87356yq2c8.fsf@telefonica.net> <83r0uisuqx.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1oqol4i.fsf@telefonica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3644"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:Bz5fP9qU2Hu0BVb8V/ZBABxnjBA= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 22 16:43:17 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pUrH3-0000o9-5Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 16:43:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pUrGk-0000eN-GF; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 10:42:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pUqxZ-0001ZB-L3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 10:23:09 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pUqxY-00035s-2o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 10:23:09 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pUqxU-0004pL-OX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 16:23:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 10:42:55 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:303682 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: > Why not write: > > "This is useful on certain versions of KDE, where [description of the bug]" > > in NEWS instead? It would be much less misleading. But the point is that the special value for icon-title-format is not all that helpful at avoiding that bug. Certainly not more than (setq icon-title-format (setq frame-title-format "blah)) ... and even then the problem may happen anyway. Plus, the KDE bug requires an specific configuration of KWin, so it is not a frequent case at all. At first I thought that Emacs was buggy, so I created an Emacs bug report. Then we discovered that KDE is buggy and closed the issue, but in the meantime I noticed that Emacs changing the frame title when it is minimized can be problematic, and thus created another bug report suggesting to set the default of icon-title-format to stay in sync with frame-title-format. Somehow Eli mixed those two issues and introduced a change to icon-title-format thinking on the original bug report.