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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309513 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Stefan Monnier >> Cc: chad , Eli Zaretskii , >> bozhidar@batsov.dev, dmitry@gutov.dev, rms@gnu.org, >> danny@dfreeman.email, emacs-devel@gnu.org, manuel.uberti@inventati.org >> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2023 23:21:50 -0400 >> >> Maybe we should go for a different implementation strategy. > > I think if we want to offer such a feature, we need first to come up > with some friendly enough UI: when exactly to pop the suggestion, how > to allow users to decline, how to install and configure if they say > yes, etc. Then there would be a need for some kind of DB with popular > features that are not built-in and that people may wish to want; the > challenge here is not to make the DB list too many features, otherwise > we will be popping suggestions every single second... How about splitting this into two separate tasks? E.g. when a more specific mode is found, a message is displayed in the minibuffer. This can occur once a session or once for every file. The message would instruct the user to invoke the appropriate command (e.g. a custom command or by using the future history for `package-install'). To make a concrete suggestion: The database would probably consist of possible extensions to `auto-mode-alist', `magic-mode-alist' and `interpreter-mode-alist'.