From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Mendler via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Ada-mode to be abandoned? Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2024 16:34:16 +0100 Message-ID: <87ttnpduo7.fsf@daniel-mendler.de> References: <87a5phiap4.fsf@posteo.net> Reply-To: Daniel Mendler Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31972"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: "Philip Kaludercic" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Stephen Leake" To: Dmitry Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 07 16:35:16 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rMVBE-000859-Jv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2024 16:35:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMVAf-0002wH-8U; Sun, 07 Jan 2024 10:34:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMVAd-0002w9-Ro for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2024 10:34:39 -0500 Original-Received: from server.qxqx.de ([2a01:4f8:121:346::180] helo=mail.qxqx.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMVAb-0002Fn-AX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2024 10:34:39 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=qxqx.de; s=mail1392553390; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=2DUuDaUoxLkCAV9aY5orM1Cwus67kxVXW48vB08USbM=; b=Lak/OXpA8d+IPGKpZKV4Xgupm9 8ePV9eqpjAEFgkk2akagHdOJpJxAhJ7Pdtl14NH5kpB7ixQAQQESWf02GvSY8jpiHhxHrnCbSeOVp kW1nU1IiS/M2NuRiEZ3jBjYJRMn4WVc+C4omzLLUMee4zZ5WEV2og3pxfQvXxIUss+vs=; In-Reply-To: (dmitry@gutov.dev's message of "Sun, 07 Jan 2024 17:21:49 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f8:121:346::180; envelope-from=mail@daniel-mendler.de; helo=mail.qxqx.de X-Spam_score_int: -41 X-Spam_score: -4.2 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314691 Archived-At: Dmitry writes: > On Sun, Jan 7, 2024, at 2:34 PM, Philip Kaludercic wrote: > > What I am wondering, is if this simplification were to take place, if it > would be possible to add ada-mode (or ada-ts-mode in that case) back to > the core? > > What is this fetish of adding everything to the core? > ELPA is just one 'M-x package-install' away. > > And Ada is niche enough that even the argument of having the popular > languages supported OOtB doesn't work. I agree with Dmitry here. Also, recently there has also been a discussion to add a `bicep-ts-mode' to Emacs core, with the argument being that VSCode supports it. Makes sense, it is a Microsoft product to help using Microsoft products. The description of Bicep on Github (https://github.com/Azure/bicep) is "Bicep is a declarative language for describing and deploying Azure resources". Does Bicep really need to be part of Emacs core? Couldn't it be added to ELPA instead? Daniel