From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: An anonymous IRC user's opinion Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 23:00:16 +0200 Message-ID: <87ttdh82an.fsf@web.de> References: <87plodsjsd.fsf@web.de> <865xq14dwp.fsf@gnu.org> <343c4d04-af53-4da2-9d1c-c616c74821e1@gutov.dev> <86plo8369c.fsf@gnu.org> <63edeeea-1f24-4d3b-abc8-b96b164942e4@gutov.dev> <8634l1zsej.fsf@gnu.org> <9a8b97f8-def3-43ce-b71b-1f09bb05afd4@gutov.dev> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1042"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , johan.myreen@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 12 23:01:19 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1szjEl-000Ae4-1B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 23:01:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1szjDy-00016h-Kw; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 17:00:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1szjDw-00016S-Cp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 17:00:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.3]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1szjDu-00065f-Rb; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 17:00:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1728766817; x=1729371617; i=arne_bab@web.de; bh=zG6jDv3kLtv2K7MMhi6FdnxZJW+RBnTx6w8DUz2wLkw=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date: Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:cc:content-transfer-encoding: content-type:date:from:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject: to; b=RSFRGyej0z7jY8MuwFneX/4IZsM9qWGlAwfU6Zah0DelmXedNvBfk4p4wmyRufPH 4z+qPBJX+Bk8FcD7O0pMAUifk+JnSKSpNG9x6ypsEQ08l5931v2PmfLTxvXjrl5ig X4FeP2fZL6B9MPfrAmtf51hAU/TCioXBJPi10/TFsWOnyB4QkWyTdxrKGnaZdxdPo YS1hFgap0R4MSn06mriuUTcYLnVkBXzvy1C5LRh2HhCC6c+2vuEBS1rymWuoifKkI YhbY726c4Be596W+dy0rLM+S8GCVLTj9qJl5gowYKzyTyzB2VcDgwYJYuW6FOxll4 GN+oAAuZH2jGYPFAZw== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Original-Received: from fluss ([84.165.28.123]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb005 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mmyqx-1tiNd8362h-00iVmA; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 23:00:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: <9a8b97f8-def3-43ce-b71b-1f09bb05afd4@gutov.dev> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Sat, 12 Oct 2024 23:27:01 +0300") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:FTbt0+BpyZjZvsaYeBGFy2cgs+HHUx2d6BM/FlP1SptuKDrjxBI 1p95TSRNqsmI5L3RGwqsBGb5WPEDu20CVkriEG5jZmLPFEb8dk0F0pD/a+pCeu88k+ql6lh QMMHp4br4aQdIZBaAsq+J32bzt5DsMXhvFx9jyDy7dgUkEvZb39vaZBfkn1Q+H1kHDpP59d EYRwDz+Q1OfsCjIid7y+Q== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:tTZ8QWzgHjw=;RK5mj+LAgfDfFanVEfUkGoCZImW KODK0u5gnVW8g4YGiEyrrS42yeDGHR0inonfGKsPSAeyXfV7EdQkjhWon/LKYcFPlQZ/mghMz RtzhrXFk0LaJPCv+t5WlZzDz2KOhsFWThxJCKRMXmAsK5ZGKIV4ZMsd6O473zpC/0K1fs52oq xo1CQWA1lYFmhxmFD8QWZc/mZ/JJMmGO/LrvYuxzqT9LD4ZbSFpYsmck5KpSgt4Na/7xg3Kb9 Ra6WirzxvUYdd5J/Q5jBmewAaGChNKdHRGi0DPVUphP4v0Fwyp9tK/awOrJuJKXAAT/ncsO5d jraf0y3qlIweeWHrH0APC8qEdMZhK8nknHIxIM2qFYvKR8f6hLW0bUlXRlZPhbGSPql3A444j grcIJ7B5C8vqaauZ/JmqjXtVT4wyX0nq8ztPzxX2vSvfidZfQnkbVEIfoZgztRGmsJOAyH8MS +eKi8ivk8Mhq6/QEpBiC/COxAwvMn0XoFWc1rzzp65msc0ix8RJCBWXsf/aK1Rne5qAepVCiA z3yvxzgNiYXf6DMtWsWvwsn5QwVjWSteqT9WimzXst23EAkixnnddsFCsWx4luwPoTy4LamCD cpV33ZQGUZOOXUv7Ty861/SuqF0LvFXKzZExPsg/qHk8hqoxaQRNbj5CWxt/TvIb1VTABKEvv ad5QVq35IMuOCxQ7YjO78+pqUeIj2QBW4I9w7Z79XLtUxp5Yo+HH9v+mZT+eqELf6YbEXsx/F 9QkejBTTOzlGk+/Xad4u6SvyrabYo6L/xuj4+Y0O1QB9s6yrs/8NETBqxmDxkoZ9Qb1LK74H Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.3; envelope-from=arne_bab@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:324522 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dmitry Gutov writes: > The proposal I'm quoting is straightforward: if Emacs is compiled with > tree-sitter support, enable the modes and warn when the grammars are > not available. If Emacs is not compiled with tree-sitter, do neither. This sounds like having external grammars is a UX problem. Are they so big that they cannot be included? 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