From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Spyros Roum <spyros.roum@posteo.net>
Cc: juri@linkov.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Add completion to compilation-read-command
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 11:33:13 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ttas80au.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9a4bb215-561c-468f-97de-7d84fe7adc43@posteo.net> (Spyros Roum's message of "Wed, 25 Dec 2024 08:26:50 +0000")
Spyros Roum <spyros.roum@posteo.net> writes:
> Philip Kaludercic wrote:
>> Spyros Roum<spyros.roum@posteo.net> writes:
>>
>>> Juri Linkov wrote:
>>>>> I'm trying to get the compile prompt to suggest completion based on past
>>>>> commands I've run.
>>>> You can use 'C-x <up>' in the compile prompt to complete on past commands.
>>> This is indeed a lot closer to what I want, however it still lacks a
>>> lot of things compared to my solution.
>>>
>>> Unless there is some package/mode I don't know about, It's a lot less
>>> dynamic, for instance I can't keep typing to reduce
>>> possible items.
>> One should keep in mind that completion is not the same as narrowing.
>> The former expands substrings, while the latter is more like a system
>> for selecting an option from a list, that usually comes with some query
>> system.
>> Confusing these two can lead to uncomfortable
>> edge-cases for both sides,
>> and sadly a lot of packages assume that completing-read is the same as a
>> hypothetical selecting-read.
> I was 100% confusing these two, thanks for clearing it up.
np.
> To make sure I understand correctly, when using `completing-read` to
> read user input, that is narrowing,
> while the `C-x <up>` and *Completions* buffer is completion.
No, `completing-read' just invokes an interface, that frontends can
implement a UI for. The default UI provides a completing/expanding
interface, while Vertico, Helm, Ivy, etc. do selecting/narrowing. When
using `completing-read' you cannot really assume one or the other, so in
effect one has to find a middle ground. It is best you try your code in
emacs -Q without any changes and see how it behaves. Things like SPC
doing something else than you would expect is just one pitfall, others
I can recall are providing text that is difficult to input (I wrote a
package a few years back called "insert-kaomoji" that used
`completing-read' to prompt the user eastern-style emoticons; it is easy
to use with a selecting framework, but more inconvenient if the user is
first made to complete a string that is difficult to write, as most of
the characters are not easy to type).
> And from
> this thread I learned that Icicles can be used to enhance completion
> similarly to how narrowing frameworks (like vertico) enhance narrowing.
I have never used it, because it is not available as a package and it
redefines built-in functions, but my understanding it that it is
something similar.
>>> My solution can leverage all of vertico and friend, and in general
>>> provides an experience that's the same as other minibuffer prompts,
>>> like M-x.
>> But for someone like me who doesn't use a selecting-narrowing framework
>> like vertico, it suddenly means that SPC is rebound to
>> `minibuffer-complete-word' and entering new commands becomes *a lot* more
>> cumbersome.
> And this is where the user option for the function would come in useful.
Right, and I just wanted to second Juri's suggestion for the name.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-25 11:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-24 8:53 Add completion to compilation-read-command Spyros Roum
2024-12-24 11:35 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-24 11:57 ` Spyros Roum
2024-12-24 12:53 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-24 13:43 ` Spyros Roum
2024-12-24 14:53 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-24 17:03 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 18:36 ` Spyros Roum
2024-12-24 18:50 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 18:59 ` Spyros Roum
2024-12-24 22:35 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-25 7:27 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 19:56 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-12-25 7:29 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 19:46 ` Drew Adams
2024-12-24 22:44 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-25 8:26 ` Spyros Roum
2024-12-25 11:33 ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
2024-12-25 15:44 ` Spyros Roum
2024-12-25 16:38 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-25 22:11 ` Spyros Roum
2024-12-25 17:32 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 18:02 ` Spyros Roum
2024-12-25 19:36 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-12-24 19:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
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