From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: MML charset tag regression Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 21:33:56 +0900 Organization: The XEmacs Project Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87smqgeqtn.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <0F223D16-8C72-11D7-8F50-00039363E640@swipnet.se> <2950-Sun25May2003202510+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> <200305301136.UAA21513@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1055335374 9550 80.91.224.249 (11 Jun 2003 12:42:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:42:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 11 14:42:51 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Q4wF-0002Tp-00 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:42:51 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19Q5HE-0001J5-00 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:04:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Q4xr-0007Cz-FC for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:44:31 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Q4wH-0006N1-Cq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:42:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Q4vI-0005yH-2H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:41:53 -0400 Original-Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.98.109]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Q4u9-0005Ho-46 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:40:41 -0400 Original-Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19Q4nd-0007et-00; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 21:33:57 +0900 Original-To: Dave Love In-Reply-To: (Dave Love's message of "Wed, 04 Jun 2003 23:01:30 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, linux) Original-cc: jas@extundo.com Original-cc: ding@gnus.org Original-cc: eliz@elta.co.il Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15030 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53101 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15030 >>>>> "Dave" == Dave Love writes: Dave> At least you have a chance of interpreting the names, but Dave> you can't know anything about private charset definitions, Dave> even if they were allowed. I don't understand what you mean. There's nothing in the definition of Compound Text that prohibits use private charset definitions in extended segments that I can see. (I don't have a recent X Consortium version, but the R5 version is word for word identical with the X11R6.4 version that comes with XFree86 4.2, excepting the exception for using DOCS for UTF-8, of course. Aargh. At least they don't prohibit use of extended segments for UTF-8.) Are you referring to use of private charsets via the private final bytes with regular ISO-2022 designations? >> If one really want to encode iso-8859-X by using an extended >> segment, he can modify non-standard-designations-alist Dave> But that violates the specification in the same way that Dave> xfree86 (or gtk or whatever it is) does. Right. We can't prevent it, but we should document it as "discouraged" in the strongest possible terms. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.