From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Menu suggestion Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:27:33 +0300 Organization: JURTA Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87smennhwa.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <87wu40vgds.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1083244715 15924 80.91.224.253 (29 Apr 2004 13:18:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 29 15:18:27 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BJBQo-0001fI-00 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:18:26 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BJBQo-0005HP-00 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:18:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BJBKA-0002ra-BU for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:11:34 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BJBJZ-0002qM-Fn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:10:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BJ9oX-00076q-JA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 07:35:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [66.33.219.6] (helo=knife.dreamhost.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BJ9kA-0006XL-S1; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 07:30:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.jurta.org (80-235-36-125-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.36.125]) by knife.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17793E4027; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 04:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 29 Apr 2004 06:44:48 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:22356 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:22356 Richard Stallman writes: > The arrow keys are perfectly logical, but efficiency is a different > question. They are less efficient because they require you to move > your hand to another position. > > On laptops the hand movement is smaller, but it is still significant. > > For occasional users, the logical nature of the arrow keys makes them > better. For peoplw who use Emacs for hours a day, it is worth > learning the old Emacs bindings. Thanks. Now I'm completely convinced in efficiency of old Emacs bindings. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/