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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" <storm@cua.dk>
Subject: Re: New undo element (fun . args)
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:14:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sm48mpo6.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x58y608slc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Mon, 07 Feb 2005 13:25:35 +0100")

> A _lot_ of people are annoyed at the way `undo' also redos things.
> For that reason, a package redo.el exists, and people get told about
> it frequently on Emacs lists and groups.

> I consider it likely that with the new changes, this package will no
> longer work.

It's possible of course, I haven't looked at how it's written, but I find
it unlikely.  The most obvious way to implement it doesn't need to look at
the undo elements.

> I also have detected the variable undo-no-redo (not customizable, though)
> which wouls appear from its name and description to solve one half of the
> problem,

The command is called `undo-only' and I had originally bound it to
C-x U (i.e. a stronger version of C-x u since it skips over matching
undo-redo pairs in the undo-list), but Richard reminded me that we do
not like to bind different commands to uppercase and lowercase commands and
I haven't bothered to try and find another binding for it.

> the remaining half being that an actual redo command working in
> the opposite direction would be required.

C-f C-/ C-/ C-/ ...

Maybe we should arrange that calling `undo' after `undo-only' does not
continue undoing but switches to redo instead, so that redo.el would amount
to (defalias 'redo-undo 'undo-only) (defalias 'redo-redo 'undo).

> Since we are likely to break redo.el, wouldn't it be sensible to
> provide the functionality from within Emacs once and for all?

I find redo.el to remove functionality rather than to provide it.
But I did go through the trouble to implement undo-only.


        Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-07 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-30  0:47 New undo element (fun . args) Kim F. Storm
2005-01-30  1:24 ` Miles Bader
2005-01-30 15:07   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-30 17:22     ` Kim F. Storm
2005-01-30 18:11     ` Kim F. Storm
2005-01-31 12:01     ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-31 13:02       ` Kim F. Storm
2005-01-31 22:53         ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-02  7:28           ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-02  7:28         ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-02 14:35           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-02 15:41             ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-03 19:13               ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-04 15:40                 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-05 17:39                   ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-07  8:23                     ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-07 20:51                       ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-09 21:50                         ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-07 11:51                   ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-07 12:25                     ` David Kastrup
2005-02-07 14:14                       ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2005-02-08 11:47                       ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-08 11:46                     ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-08 12:53                       ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-03 19:13             ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-31  0:19 ` Richard Stallman

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