From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A few issues with thumbs.el Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:02:59 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87slzm26vw.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87br6zuerw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <87u0kqrsur.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <87hdgon2p2.fsf@jurta.org> <87vf508myc.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <87oeabsw97.fsf@rocksteady.printf.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1118644429 10523 80.91.229.2 (13 Jun 2005 06:33:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:33:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 13 08:33:46 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DhiVh-0004v6-Vg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:33:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DhiaR-0000IJ-DP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 02:38:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DhiU4-0007Ps-Ev for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 02:31:44 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DhiU1-0007OI-8w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 02:31:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DhiU0-0007Ng-Oa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 02:31:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [194.126.101.116] (helo=HOT-Bounce1.hot.ee) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DhiUj-0007pL-JF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 02:32:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.neti.ee (Relay4 [192.168.1.23]) by HOT-Bounce1.hot.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4BF1401A7 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:18:43 +0300 (EEST) Original-Received: from mail.neti.ee (80-235-33-21-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.33.21]) by Relayhost2.neti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123461E53; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:30:49 +0300 (EEST) Original-To: Mathias Dahl In-Reply-To: (Mathias Dahl's message of "12 Jun 2005 16:02:27 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at neti.ee X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:38689 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:38689 >> Have you seen the thumbnail-spec, which is apparently poised to become a >> freedesktop.org standard? It seems to allow usage of the same >> thumbnails by several programs. >> >> > > I have now... :) > > Seems quite good although I don't like the idea of using PNG-files as > their size is much larger than using JPEG. PNG is more optimal for small images like thumbnails. > The file names are named according to the absolute URI's MD5 value, > which most in this thread seems to dislike (including myself). This specification is _already_ implemented in Gimp. Since Gimp is the primary GNU image manipulation program, this is the _de-facto_ GNU standard for creating thumbnails. Gimp users already have the directory ~/.thumbnails. Some time ago thumbs.el was added to the Emacs CVS tree which uses the ~/.emacs-thumbs directory for thumbnails. And now you've created a new package that uses yet another directory ~/.tumme. All these three directories are used for the same purpose. This is a waste of user space. The above-mentioned specification is well thought out, and the list of advantages of this approach is convincing. So the best thing for us to do now is just to follow this standard and to share the same standard thumbnail directory with other GNU programs. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/