From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bug Database? Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:21:54 +0900 Message-ID: <87slhi31l9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <17717.20433.183356.106695@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17718.15996.727727.91417@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17719.20082.610297.834477@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <85zmbqn1nf.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1161393743 9548 80.91.229.2 (21 Oct 2006 01:22:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Frank Schmitt , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 21 03:22:21 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gb5Z5-0006Mi-St for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 03:22:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gb5Z4-0001kB-W9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:22:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Gb5Yq-0001gM-F4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:22:04 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Gb5Yp-0001dl-3R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:22:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gb5Yo-0001di-TS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [203.216.5.72] (helo=smtp02.dentaku.gol.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gb5Ym-0007vt-Ie; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:22:01 -0400 Original-Received: from 203-216-96-133.dsl.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.96.133] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp02.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1Gb5Yk-0001wL-27; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:21:58 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A38E12F45; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:21:54 +0900 (JST) Original-To: David Kastrup System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <85zmbqn1nf.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Fri\, 20 Oct 2006 23\:00\:20 +0200") Original-Lines: 18 X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:60975 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > C++ is really a handicap. C++ (with templates) clearly could have been better in many ways, but even with all its flaws, is a very nice language for some types of programming. [i.e., while I can imagine a more elegant language offering the same advantages, I don't know of any that are widely available. Availability is important too! :-] Templates+inlining do indeed make things interesting for debuggers, but as a programmer, I'll put up with some debugging pain if my program source can be made much more clear as a result. -Miles -- "Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." Mahatma Ghandi