From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance...
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 17:20:17 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sl5n5yem.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1IUT3e-0007WT-Q4@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun\, 09 Sep 2007 16\:07\:02 -0400")
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> I would like to have the old behavior back: if a file name was given
> on the command line the user definitely wants to edit that file, and
> so any editing/movement/redraw command should switch to that files
> buffer immediately.
>
> I changed this because I want beginners to see the splash screen,
> and beginners often have the habit of passing a file name.
The way Emacs currently handles the splash screen is completely
unsatisfactory, because it gives the impression that the splash screen
is being displayed *instead of* the file specified by the user (and
thus implies that Emacs is unable to process command line arguments.)
The way other programs handle this is to (1) display the splash screen
in a small, floating X window, (2) provide a check box on the splash
screen saying "Display splash screen on startup" or something similar,
and (3) a prominent button saying "OK" or similar to dismiss the
splash screen.
Using a small, floating X window lets the user see that the command
line argument was processed correctly, since the main X window is
visible behind the splash screen panel. In our case, it may be better
to use a pop-to-buffer. Providing a check box makes it easy to
dismiss the splash screen, which in my experience almost everyone ends
up doing, since a splash screen gets annoying after the first time you
see it (and you shouldn't have to read the documentation to find out
how to disable it!)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-09 21:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 295+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-09 13:56 New start up splash screen annoyance Sascha Wilde
2007-09-09 14:40 ` Leo
2007-09-09 17:32 ` Mathias Dahl
2007-09-09 20:07 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-09 21:20 ` Chong Yidong [this message]
2007-09-09 23:52 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-10 16:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-10 17:00 ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-10 18:19 ` Leo
2007-09-11 20:31 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-11 21:33 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-11 22:59 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-10 17:28 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-11 20:31 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-11 20:57 ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-12 2:48 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs (was: New start up splash screen annoyance...) Bill Wohler
2007-09-12 5:44 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs David Kastrup
2007-09-12 5:57 ` Bill Wohler
2007-09-12 7:06 ` dhruva
2007-09-12 7:55 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-13 9:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-13 11:36 ` Michael Albinus
2007-09-13 8:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-12 7:17 ` Tramp (was: Folding emacsclient into emacs) Bill Wohler
2007-09-12 8:03 ` Tramp David Kastrup
2007-09-12 8:17 ` Tramp Michael Albinus
2007-09-12 20:20 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs Tom Tromey
2007-09-12 20:48 ` Leo
2007-09-13 6:10 ` Jan Djärv
2007-09-12 11:17 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs (was: New start up splash screen annoyance...) Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-12 11:25 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-12 11:37 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-12 15:08 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs Bill Wohler
2007-09-12 15:15 ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-12 23:36 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-12 18:52 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs (was: New start up splash screen annoyance...) Richard Stallman
2007-09-12 19:08 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs David Kastrup
2007-09-13 7:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-13 7:45 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-13 7:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-13 7:59 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-13 8:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-13 9:04 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-13 11:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-14 7:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-14 8:22 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-15 2:09 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-15 5:56 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-15 18:07 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-16 4:08 ` dhruva
2007-09-16 7:32 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-16 10:57 ` dhruva
2007-09-16 11:11 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-16 11:27 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-19 23:45 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-20 0:56 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-20 1:24 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-20 8:50 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-20 10:12 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-20 18:34 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-21 12:23 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-12 16:34 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs (was: New start up splash screen annoyance...) Davis Herring
2007-09-12 7:02 ` New start up splash screen annoyance Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-12 14:07 ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-12 9:39 ` Johannes Weiner
2007-09-12 12:36 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-12 18:52 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-13 7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-13 8:21 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-09-13 8:24 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-09-13 8:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-13 8:36 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-09-13 8:55 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-14 7:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-14 11:12 ` Mathias Dahl
2007-09-14 18:54 ` Romain Francoise
2007-09-13 23:43 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-14 6:13 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-14 18:43 ` Romain Francoise
2007-09-14 20:15 ` Bill Wohler
2007-09-14 21:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-14 21:38 ` Bill Wohler
2007-09-15 14:48 ` Michael Albinus
2007-09-15 21:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-16 5:34 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-14 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-15 2:09 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-15 8:04 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-15 8:18 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2007-09-16 5:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-16 7:25 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-17 0:20 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-17 5:55 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-17 22:24 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-18 5:39 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-18 9:30 ` Leo
2007-09-18 10:01 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-18 15:00 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-09-18 15:34 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-18 16:51 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-19 3:18 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-19 5:45 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-20 16:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-19 13:52 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-09-19 14:10 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-19 16:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-09-18 20:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-18 22:17 ` Mathias Dahl
2007-09-18 19:34 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-18 21:01 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-18 22:08 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2007-09-19 15:49 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-19 23:46 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-20 0:24 ` Leo
2007-09-21 12:23 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-20 11:16 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-09-20 14:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-20 15:30 ` dhruva
2007-09-20 15:39 ` Davis Herring
2007-09-20 15:52 ` Bastien
2007-09-20 15:56 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-20 15:49 ` Bastien
2007-09-21 16:21 ` Bastien
2007-09-21 17:42 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-21 18:01 ` Sean Sieger
2007-09-21 19:38 ` Bastien
2007-09-21 17:46 ` Davis Herring
2007-09-22 11:57 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-20 17:45 ` Manoj Srivastava
2007-09-20 18:35 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-20 19:12 ` Sean O'Rourke
2007-09-20 19:19 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-20 20:13 ` Sean O'Rourke
2007-09-20 20:22 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-20 23:57 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-21 7:18 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-21 22:34 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-22 14:11 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-22 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-22 18:52 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-22 19:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-22 20:03 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-22 20:43 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-22 23:48 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-09-23 0:33 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-23 5:39 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-09-23 7:43 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-23 15:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 15:20 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-24 18:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-24 22:08 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25 17:57 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-25 18:30 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 18:40 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25 18:59 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 19:25 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25 19:45 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-26 0:35 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-09-26 1:54 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-26 14:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-26 14:05 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-26 15:18 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-26 21:56 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-26 15:10 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 18:47 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-09-25 19:08 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25 20:27 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 16:43 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 18:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 22:52 ` David Reitter
2007-09-24 18:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-24 18:37 ` Davis Herring
2007-09-24 21:14 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 17:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-25 18:33 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25 18:38 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 19:37 ` David Reitter
2007-09-25 21:03 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-26 7:59 ` David Reitter
2007-09-26 14:59 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-26 16:03 ` David Reitter
2007-09-26 16:15 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-26 16:10 ` echo area clicks: *Messages* David Reitter
2007-09-26 16:49 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-24 20:40 ` New start up splash screen annoyance Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-25 17:57 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-25 18:18 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25 5:01 ` Manoj Srivastava
2007-09-25 23:36 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 14:06 ` Didier Verna
2007-09-23 16:44 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-23 19:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-23 20:42 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 1:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-24 2:00 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-23 20:16 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-24 16:59 ` Davis Herring
2007-09-24 21:25 ` Didier Verna
2007-09-23 15:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 15:25 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-23 16:43 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 15:46 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-09-23 16:44 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 18:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-26 7:03 ` Didier Verna
2007-09-26 16:29 ` mode line [X] Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 13:46 ` New start up splash screen annoyance Didier Verna
2007-09-22 20:01 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 4:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-23 7:50 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-23 11:22 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 22:33 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-09-24 6:03 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-24 18:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 15:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 19:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-22 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-22 20:07 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-22 22:15 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-22 22:54 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-22 22:16 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 15:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 20:17 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-24 18:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 9:07 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-20 20:23 ` Sean O'Rourke
2007-09-20 19:28 ` Manoj Srivastava
2007-09-21 22:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-22 14:12 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 9:07 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 11:22 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 21:55 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 23:55 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-25 10:44 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-25 20:28 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-21 17:37 ` Mathias Megyei
2007-09-22 11:57 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-19 14:59 ` Bill Wohler
2007-09-20 16:34 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-18 8:15 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-09-16 9:27 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2007-09-17 22:03 ` Davis Herring
2007-09-17 22:43 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-18 5:25 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-18 5:43 ` dhruva
2007-09-15 10:17 ` Mathias Megyei
2007-09-15 10:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-15 18:55 ` Mathias Megyei
2007-09-15 22:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-17 0:20 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-18 21:20 ` Mathias Megyei
2007-09-19 15:49 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-15 18:57 ` Mathias Megyei
2007-09-16 4:41 ` tomas
2007-09-16 20:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-16 22:12 ` Mathias Megyei
2007-09-17 4:04 ` tomas
2007-09-16 5:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-17 22:08 ` Davis Herring
2007-09-13 7:52 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-09-13 8:03 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-14 7:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-14 7:51 ` Jason Rumney
2007-09-14 8:19 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-10 16:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-10 19:09 ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-10 22:07 ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-10 23:10 ` Leo
2007-09-10 23:19 ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-10 23:24 ` Leo
2007-09-12 0:40 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-14 8:11 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-09 21:27 ` Jason Rumney
2007-09-09 21:44 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-10 1:13 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-09 23:48 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-03 20:18 ` KingBolete
2007-10-04 17:27 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-08 4:16 ` tomas
2007-10-08 19:16 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-09 20:03 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-10 21:27 ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-10 22:36 ` Pure space overflow in Emacs 22 (was: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance...) Sven Joachim
2007-11-10 22:43 ` Pure space overflow in Emacs 22 Juri Linkov
2007-10-09 1:14 ` New start up splash screen annoyance Richard Stallman
2007-10-09 6:39 ` tomas
2007-10-26 5:21 ` tomas
2007-09-09 23:54 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-10 2:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-10 5:19 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-11 20:30 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-10 23:55 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-11 0:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-11 5:47 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-12 8:45 ` Richard Stallman
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