From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:35:08 +0100 Message-ID: <87sl1gvd4z.fsf@member.fsf.org> References: <20071230122217.3CA84830B9A@snark.thyrsus.com> <20071231130712.GB8641@thyrsus.com> <20080101171120.GC3830@muc.de> <20080101193731.GA10056@thyrsus.com> <20080101214621.GH3830@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199262974 25326 80.91.229.12 (2 Jan 2008 08:36:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 08:36:14 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 02 09:36:32 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J9z5Q-0006mB-Ko for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:36:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J9z54-0005q1-Gs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:36:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J9z4E-0005Oe-Qo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:35:14 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J9z4C-0005N1-GX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:35:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J9z4C-0005Mv-6B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:35:12 -0500 Original-Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J9z4B-0005Wk-TZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:35:12 -0500 Original-Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE475A263 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2008 03:35:11 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:35:11 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: 8624ps40NbZkf0zxlgwyTzH1SC2YUcwIcaUp8a+8cvxs 1199262910 Original-Received: from baldur (dslb-084-063-049-086.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.63.49.86]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24D9183CF for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2008 03:35:10 -0500 (EST) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <20080101214621.GH3830@muc.de> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Tue, 1 Jan 2008 21:46:21 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85865 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie writes: Hi Alan, >> > o - They must, like Emacs, be fully usable on a text console >> > without a mouse as well as in X. There are at least 3 hackers here >> > who prefer such a setup. > >> This *does* have a technical solution: lynx. Or links. Text-mode >> browsers aren't what I'd call pleasant compared to graphical ones, >> but they are usable. emacs-w3m is quite good. I already used it to file some bug reports at the kde and gentoo bugzillas. > A web browser is for browsing the web, and is pretty cruddy for > anything else. For email you'd use mutt, for documentation C-h i, for > usenet tin or slrn, and so on. Surely there's a purpose built tty > client for IRC. You can do all of those jobs in a stock emacs: - Mail: Gnus, VM, rmail - News: Gnus - Web: emacs-w3m (ok, that's not stock...) - IRC: ERC, rcirc Bye, Tassilo