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From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Online help and help-for-help improvements
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:04:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87skzcvnt0.fsf@jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87myplmgn8.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> (Kim F. Storm's message of "Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:04:11 +0100")

> Here is a patch which improves the online help in the
> following ways:
>
> - the output from C-h C-h is much easier to read and use.

Yes, it is much easier to read now.  It removes command names
(not useful for users who read this help page), but maybe we
could put these command names on the `help-echo' property
over the help key letters?

Also using the verb `Display' at the beginning of every line
seems too superfluous, i.e. instead of

C-a         Display information about Emacs.
C-c         Display Emacs copying permission (GNU General Public License).
C-d         Display instructions for debugging GNU Emacs.
C-e         Display external packages and information about Emacs.
C-f         Display the Emacs FAQ.
C-m         Display how to order printed Emacs manuals.
C-n         Display news of recent Emacs changes.
C-o         Display Emacs ordering and distribution information.
C-p         Display info about Emacs problems.
C-t         Display the Emacs TODO list.
C-w         Display information on absence of warranty for GNU Emacs."

can we have something like

C-a         Information about Emacs.
C-c         Emacs copying permission (GNU General Public License).
C-d         Instructions for debugging GNU Emacs.
C-e         External packages and information about Emacs.
C-f         Emacs FAQ.
C-m         How to order printed Emacs manuals.
C-n         News of recent Emacs changes.
C-o         Emacs ordering and distribution information.
C-p         Info about Emacs problems.
C-t         Emacs TODO list.
C-w         Information on absence of warranty for GNU Emacs."



> 	* startup.el (startup-echo-area-message): Check for about-emacs.

Could you please fix this also in the Emacs 22 branch?

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/




  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-28 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-28 12:04 Online help and help-for-help improvements Kim F. Storm
2008-02-28 21:04 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2008-02-28 22:49   ` Kim F. Storm
2008-02-28 23:01     ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-28 23:12       ` Kim F. Storm
2008-02-28 21:08 ` Chong Yidong
2008-02-28 23:01   ` Kim F. Storm
2008-02-28 23:48     ` Chong Yidong
2008-02-29 12:22       ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-01 10:33       ` Reiner Steib
2008-03-02  2:59         ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-03 13:37           ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-03 14:03             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-03 23:40               ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-04 15:49                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-04 18:17                   ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-04 19:29                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-05  0:29                       ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-04 19:40                     ` Reiner Steib
2008-03-05  0:30                       ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-04 21:37                     ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-04 21:48                       ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-06  0:09                       ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-06 15:18                         ` Chong Yidong

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