From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Changes 2009-07-15/16 in branch?
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:01:08 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87skgetgm3.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wl7hxqvc6t.wl%mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> (YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu's message of "Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:53:46 +0900")
YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> writes:
> Maintainers, shouldn't you explain why you released Emacs 23.1 without
> removing the Cocoa-only background transparent feature?
>
> I've explained reasons why it should be removed in so many aspects.
> But I've never heard of logical reasons from you.
As I've explained before, it was too late to make drastic internals
changes. I agreed to the removal of the user commands for setting the
alpha channel---a "removal", I might add, that actually consisted of not
reverting your unannounced, unagreed-upon changes to a release branch in
heavy freeze---but your other changes to the ns*.m internals were too
risky for the marginal "benefit" provided (that "benefit" being to make
it slightly harder for users to set the alpha in an incompatible way).
Now, I'm confident that someone of your intelligence will be able to
find some persnickety arguments against this decision. But I've little
inclination to engage in more such debate, so you'll unfortunately have
to live with it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-30 14:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-23 11:22 Changes 2009-07-15/16 in branch? Adrian Robert
2009-07-23 12:46 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-23 15:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-24 0:23 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-24 1:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-24 1:27 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-24 1:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-24 2:20 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-24 3:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-24 3:35 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-24 3:44 ` Jason Rumney
2009-07-24 4:12 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-25 2:13 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-26 2:22 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-26 2:35 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-26 3:31 ` Miles Bader
2009-07-26 3:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-27 2:44 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-27 3:20 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-27 17:41 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-27 18:41 ` Clifford Wulfman
2009-07-28 4:37 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-28 13:18 ` Clifford Wulfman
2009-07-28 17:14 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-28 18:39 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-28 20:31 ` Ian Eure
2009-08-01 3:21 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-01 4:10 ` Ian Eure
2009-08-01 6:28 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-02 4:44 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-28 22:05 ` James Cloos
2009-07-29 20:13 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-29 22:05 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-30 7:53 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-30 14:01 ` Chong Yidong [this message]
2009-07-31 1:56 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-27 20:14 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-07-28 6:10 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
[not found] ` <EFBC3E4E-8739-4B16-8797-D9CA8BC290CD@gmail.com>
2009-07-28 20:33 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-07-28 0:53 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-28 17:14 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-24 19:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-29 0:22 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-29 1:12 ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-29 1:18 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-29 4:48 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-29 1:29 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-24 14:34 ` Adrian Robert
2009-07-25 1:15 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-25 4:55 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-25 16:59 ` Adrian Robert
2009-07-27 2:43 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-27 3:22 ` Adrian Robert
[not found] ` <E1MW1sm-0000lL-4K@fencepost.gnu.org>
2009-07-29 14:08 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-07-29 17:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-30 7:35 ` David Kastrup
2009-07-30 13:31 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-07-28 18:25 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-07-29 2:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-29 2:41 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-29 2:56 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-07-29 3:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-29 20:14 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-29 20:26 ` Chad Brown
2009-07-30 15:35 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-30 16:37 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-07-29 20:31 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-07-30 15:35 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-30 16:22 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-08-01 3:21 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-01 7:45 ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-01 9:36 ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-02 4:43 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-02 7:06 ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-03 16:17 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-03 20:03 ` CHENG Gao
2009-07-29 14:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-27 0:35 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-27 3:12 ` Adrian Robert
2009-07-29 3:23 ` Sean O'Rourke
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